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November 2008 Archive for The Lean Hog Perspective

RSS By: Jeremy Knutson

This lean hog and feed commentary contains thoughts from Jeremy Knutson, a commodity broker with Hurley & Associates.

Hog & Corn Comments - 11-20-08 - Has anyone seen half of a nest egg? I can't find mine.

Nov 20, 2008

Hog Comments - 11-20-08 - Has anyone seen half of a nest egg? I can't find mine.

Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
It didn't take long for March '09 corn to reach its low this morning.  The low was made during the first hour of trade and was $3.76 1/2.  I was impressed with the first hour trade making lows and then moving higher back toward the opening price of $3.83 1/2.   It ended up still being negative from a statistical perspective meaning  the futures should close below $3.83 1/2, which it did.

The volume today was light, around half of what it was during some of the "liquidation" days in October.  I think the March '09 corn has done enough to the downside for now.  We are still holding the resistance at $3.80 (from a close perspective) in the March contract.  Nothing new, the equity markets are in the toilet again today making new low's and then rallying only to sell off again.  Most of the action in the equity market hinged on congress deciding whether or not they are going to bailout the auto industry.  As of 1:54 p.m. CST they were not and the Dow Jones sold off.

Bottom line- I expect March '09 corn to open lower tonight and maybe make a jab at today's low of $3.76 1/2 but I think the weakness will be short lived in the overnight session.  We have a gap at $3.92 in the hourly chart that we need to fill at some point and I think we may have a chance at doing it over the next few days.  I expect an early low tomorrow and some short covering later in the day. 

 

MEAL
I said on Tuesday that the Dec '08 meal contract had a shot at touching $258.00 on this move before we reached good support.  Our low today was $256.80 so we are now in my support area, the question is will it hold.  We filled a gap on the hourly chart today that was made on October 22nd, 2008 at $256.90.  We have filled the gap and also come to a place where it looks like we have done enough to the downside for a bit. 

Crude oil made a new low of $48.50 today which is the lowest level since the week of May 27th, 2005!  This new low and also crude trading around $3.00+ lower all day, helped keep the meal market lower.  The Dow Jones didn't help matters much either but meal didn't seem to pay as much attention to the Dow as it did Crude. 

Bottom line - I feel the market should open weaker tonight and maybe move lower, but then recover as the evening session goes on.  I think tomorrow will have a low early in the day if not overnight and then firm as the day moves forward.   If the market makes another leg lower it should see support at $251.30 and then big support at $236.90, our most recent low.  $262.20 is a short-term resistance for tomorrow's trade if we trade higher like I think we could. 

 

HOGS
Hey- the market moved!  It is nice to see we still have activity in this market.  We had a nice little rally today in the Feb and April '09 futures which brings in a some optimism for the hog market in general.  I am going to start talking about the Feb '09 contract now because the Dec '08 isn't going to have as much activity any more as we close in on expiration in a few weeks.  It is my understanding that the hog market saw strength today because of cash and cutout optimism for the coming weeks.  I don't know how excited I want to get because the US Dollar Index is still toward its high but I have been getting warning signs (not sell signals, warning signs) of a top in the Dollar the past few weeks. 

As of today's close we are trading above last week's high of $63.82 and we also traded below last week's low all in today's trade.  What does that say about how quiet the market has been?  We should have some resistance at $66.37 in the Feb '09 contract in the coming days and then up to $67.80.  I think we could set back slightly either tonight or tomorrow and test the $63.25-$63.70 area and find support.  

Bottom line - I think we had good trade action today which will allow for some follow through buying tomorrow but I think we could test some support around $63.70 first before moving higher.  I expect an early low tomorrow and firming prices as the session moves forward.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
11/20        59.0      56.67   71.21   64.34  41.04  86.36 43.51  67.00
Change :                0.23   -0.99    1.23  -0.06   0.66  0.13   0.17
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .53 lwr   :   .21 lwr   :   .43 lwr   :   .28 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 40.50-51.50 : 40.50-51.50 : 40.50-51.50 : 42.00-51.35
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    49.45    :    50.24    :    50.27    :    48.20
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   21,625    :    9,370    :   12,883    :    8,382
==========================================================================

 


Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

 


Hog & Corn Comments - 11-18-08 - Does the hog market still trade?

Nov 18, 2008

Hog Comments - 11-18-08 - Does the hog market still trade?

Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Corn had a pretty quiet day today all things considered.  I expected early lows today and late high's but there really wasn't a great deal of movement.  I said yesterday I thought we could test $3.78 either last night or today and our low was $3.78 1/2, which is close enough in my book.  I thought we were going to see more weakness in the overnight instead of in today's session.  

I am still looking for lower prices tonight and into the first part of tomorrow's trade.  I wouldn't be surprised to see corn drop toward $3.75 and then down to the $3.71 area.  I don't expect a blow and go type trade but instead some weakness that drags us down to these levels.  The Dow Jones rallied and closed near its high today in its last hour of trade so it should bring some strength to the overnight grain markets on the open.  

Bottom line - I expect Dec corn to be weak tonight and early tomorrow but I don't think we will get carried away to the downside.  I also think March '09 corn has a chance to see support at $3.95 and then $3.93.  My thoughts for the March '09 corn are a mirror of my comments on Dec '08, early low tomorrow and then move higher from there.  I think we have a reasonable shot at $3.93 but if we can't break $3.95 it might bounce at that level.  

MEAL
I said yesterday I expected a test of $267.40 and then $264.60 in the Dec '08 contract.  We made a low of $266.90 today and closed right at my number of $267.40.  I still think we will have a shot at the $264.60 number before we turn and move higher.  I think our high in the overnight will come early and we will have a late low by morning.  I think the day session for tomorrow will bring early lows and late highs. 

Bottom line - I am not extremely bearish meal at this level but I am not immediately friendly either.  I think we have the chance to reach as low as $258 on this move before we find solid support.  I think tomorrow's low should be around $264.60 to maybe $262.00 in the Dec '08 contract.  Look for early lows and late highs tomorrow.

HOGS
I said yesterday I thought Dec '08 hogs could trade down to $54.87 and also that our low of $53.80 would probably hold as our contract low.  We only got as low as $55.05 (Globex) and had a very narrow trade range for the day.  It is almost as if people have started the Thanksgiving holiday early this year and there isn't anyone around to trade the market.

My views from yesterday haven't changed much, I still think the low for the Dec '08 contract are in and now it is a question of the Feb '09 contract and where it's headed.  From what I see the Feb '09 contract has support at the contract low of $60.50 and resistance at $63.82.  This support and resistance window is the area in which I think we could bounce around in for the time being until we get further direction.

Bottom line - I am looking at moving my futures positions from Dec '08 to Feb '09 in the near future but I haven't made the move just yet.  I will keep my hedges in the Dec '08 contract unless we get a close below $61.70 in the Feb '09 contract and then I will move them to the Feb '09 futures.  I expect lax although firm trade again tomorrow for the Dec '08 contract but the Feb '09 could have a bit more get up and go with the cutout being up $.99 today.  Resistance in Feb '09 hogs is $62.80 and then $63.05 for tomorrow's trade. 


USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
11/18        83.4      56.70   73.25   62.83  41.39  86.49 43.54  63.63
Change :                0.99    0.48   -0.10   6.26   0.44  0.92  -0.37
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 
National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .91 lwr   :   .57 lwr   :   .94 lwr   :   .06 hgr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 39.00-54.25 : 39.00-54.25 : 39.00-54.25 : 44.00-50.68
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    50.45    :    51.68    :    51.64    :    48.47
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   24,330    :   12,797    :   15,715    :    9,155
==========================================================================

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

 

Hog & Corn Comments - 11-17-08 - Grains end the day higher but hogs are weak.

Nov 17, 2008

Hog Comments - 11-17-08 - Grains end the day higher but hogs are weak.

Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
I'm back!  I apologize for not being able to post comments last week but I was traveling and it was difficult to find the proper time to complete the task.  Dec '08 corn had almost a $.30 range last week but only closed $.03 lower on Friday than where it opened on Monday.  The close for the week was $.04 3/4 higher than the previous Friday's close.  Sunday evening had a lower opening but through the market session last night and today we managed to close the market higher on the day.

I am not a bear at these levels and I think we have good support at the $3.75 level in Dec '08 corn but there is no rush to go out and buy corn as a long-term investment either.   We are still in the consolidation mode for the market and there are a lot of opinions being formed between $4.33 and $3.60 so which ever direction we break out of this range could provide for a nice move in the direction of the breakout.  

Bottom line - I expect corn to be weaker early tomorrow and make early low's and late high's for the day.  I expect a test of $3.78 sometime tonight or during tomorrow's day session and then recover from those levels.  I expect this assuming the Dow Jones or Crude Oil doesn't have a meltdown.


MEAL
Dec '08 meal had a strong day today closing above Friday's high price of $269.20.  Like corn I am not a bear at these levels but I am not expecting a strong day tomorrow.  Crude Oil hasn't boosted soybean meal prices in recent weeks however Oil is getting close to an old low of $50.53 which was a technical target by some Wall Street analysts.  The most recent low is $54.67 and is only $4.14 away from the downside target of $50.53.  

If crude oil holds the old low of $50.53 I think we could see a turn in the Soybean and meal market.  The U.S. Dollar Index is still toward the top end of its range but it looks to me like it is trying to find a top and poised to move lower in the coming months.  If this is the case we could see Crude Oil rally based on a falling dollar not to mention upcoming OPEC meetings to cut oil production.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 meal to be weaker tomorrow with an early low and late high.  Support tomorrow should be at $267.40 and then $264.60 but I would expect the low's for the electronic session to be set tonight instead of tomorrow.  

 

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs had a very quiet day today with what seemed to be a lack of interest.  Nothing has really changed in the hog market for me other than we completed the Goldman Roll last week and cash has been steady according to the USDA.  I have short positions in the Dec '08 contract but will be rolling them to the Feb '09 soon as the Dec '08 contract will no longer be a good hedge location as we get closer to its expiration.

Bottom line - I expect weak trade again tomorrow but I don't expect a blow out to the downside.  I think it is even possible that our low might be in at $53.80 in the Dec '08 contract.  I think the market could trade down to $54.87 tomorrow and over the next couple days make a test of the low at $53.80.  I don't see a tremendous amount of downside in the Dec '08 contract at this point.  

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
11/17        76.8      55.71   72.77   62.93  35.13  86.05 42.62  64.01
Change :               -0.70   -2.12    1.26  -0.19   0.69 -1.96  -0.32
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .69 hgr   :   .64 hgr   :   .70 hgr   :   .03 hgr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 41.00-54.05 : 41.00-54.05 : 41.00-54.05 : 46.32-53.38
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    51.08    :    52.19    :    52.48    :    48.41
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   25,961    :   13,265    :   17,017    :    8,334
==========================================================================

 

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


Hog & Corn Comments - No commentary today.

Nov 10, 2008

11-10-08

 

There will be very little commentary this week if any.  I am traveling and will be in meetings therefore it will be difficult to get good commentary written.  Please check periodically because I will try to write them, time permitting.  

 

Jeremy

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


Hog & Corn Comments - 11-05-08 - You turn your head for one second...

Nov 05, 2008

Hog Comments - 11-05-08 - You turn your head for one second...

Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec '08 corn opened slightly higher today and traded lower for the balance of the day.  The Crude Oil market didn't help matters as it was trading as much as $5.50 lower during the day.  Dec '08 filled a gap left on the hourly chart at $3.92 3/4 and also touched the 62% retracement level of $3.90 1/4 and held.    The Dow Jones continued its slide during the last hour of its session and the US Dollar index firmed going into 3:00 p.m. CST.

 The market closed a 1/4 cent off of the lows today so we could experience a gap lower opening tonight which would actually be friendly.  If the market gaps lower and moves higher from there, I would expect some buying to come into the market above $3.90 in the Dec '08 contract.  Today I did some scale down buying of Dec '08 corn at $3.98 and $3.95 and my average price is $4.04 on about 60% of my needs.  I also purchased an out of the money put option to make sure the market can't blow up on me and get another sell off like we had in the last month.   

Bottom line - I expect the Dec '08 futures to gap open lower and move lower right away and then find support at $3.85 3/4 if we get down that far.  I expect the market to recover after the initial sell off and work its way back toward unchanged by tomorrow.  I expect early lows and late highs during tomorrow's trade.  It is probable that we may test the $4.03 which would be a 50% retracement of today's move.


MEAL

Dec '08 meal wasn't much different than corn or soybeans today as it too fell apart.  The meal market did what I thought it was going to do today; I expected an early high and a late low which is exactly what we got.  The Dec '08 contract touched support at $264.10 today which is the 50% retracement back to the low of $236.90 back on 10-16-08.  The market didn't bounce much off of this number but it did respect it for today's trading session; we will see what tonight/tomorrow brings.

Bottom line - I expect similar action in Dec '08 meal tonight as I do in the corn.  I am looking for a weak to possible gap lower tonight with some additional selling only to catch support at $261.40 if we get that low.  IF there is a gap lower (open below $263.40) and we end up trading above today's low I would expect some buying above $263.40.  I am looking for early lows tomorrow and late highs.  Make sure you have some soybean meal covered with options if you can!


HOGS

The market wasn't as weak in the Dec '08 contract as I thought it would be.  It seems to me the market is preparing for the Goldman roll which begins Friday.  I am not sure what I mean by that because if they wanted to go with the direction of the roll they would sell the Dec and buy the Feb but they are doing the opposite.  I am telling you, these Goldman guys are good at getting business done!

The cutout was down $3.53 yesterday but it didn't seem to bother the market in the Dec '08 but the Feb and April of '09 drifted some.  The cash and the cutout were down today as well.  I don't expect much to happen tomorrow either because the cash was no surprise and the cutout was expected to be lower  as well.  The weighted average for the nation is around $51.50 and the Dec '08 contract closed at $54.47 today so it looks as if the market thinks the cash will rally some into the Dec '08 contract expiration.  One could also view it as the futures market has more downside and that is the way I will keep positioned, covering the downside.  

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 to be lower tomorrow based off of fundamental news this evening.  I don't think it will be a blood bath because the news isn't anything we didn't already know during the day session.  I look for quiet and mixed trade overnight and tomorrow I am looking for the market to make early lows and late highs unless the outside markets say something different.  With the Dow Jones closing 486 points lower and Crude Oil down $5.24 I think most traders will have one eye on the outside markets as well, and not only for hogs but grains too.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
11/05       106.6      56.74   78.86   60.07  41.34  86.82 37.74  65.71
Change :               -0.81   -1.97    0.04   0.00  -0.48 -1.07    unc
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  2.04 lwr   :  1.90 lwr   :  2.01 lwr   :  1.89 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 42.00-53.00 : 42.50-53.00 : 42.00-53.00 : 43.00-52.50
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    51.48    :    51.91    :    51.97    :    50.65
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   21,781    :    8,924    :   13,604    :    7,927
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

 


Hog & Corn Comments - 11-04-08 - Grains rally but hogs can't find a leg to stand on.

Nov 04, 2008

Hog Comments - 11-04-08 - Grains rally but hogs can't find a leg to stand on.


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com


CORN

As I said yesterday it felt as if the Dec '08 corn contract was going to firm up during today's trade session.  The first hour trade was positive for the Dec '08 contract even after the fact we gapped higher from yesterday on the intra-day charts.  Usually when we get gap openings either up or down, it is a signal of excitement that either continues or reverses.  Usually the market will reverse a gap opening just to fill the gap it left but today that wasn't the case, it kept going.

We traded above my high end resistance number of $4.18 that I talked about yesterday but failed to close above it.  The grain markets were higher today with the help of Crude oil being up as much as $7.86 at one point today.  The Dow Jones rallied into its close today which should bring more optimism into the overnight grain trade.

Bottom line - I expect a better opening tonight and then see the market selloff.  I feel $4.18 is still resistance and also $4.22 after that.  I see support at $4.11 and $4.09 1/2, I think we can reach $4.09 1/2 tonight or tomorrow.  The close for the day was good and there isn't anything that says the market should head lower on the daily or weekly charts just yet so if you haven't covered your feed needs yet I would do so with options.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal went through my resistance levels that I posted yesterday but failed to close above them.  It looks like Dec '08 meal will open better tonight and sell off (just a little) like corn.  I expect $277.30 to hold support tonight and tomorrow.  Informa released its projected yield for soybeans at 40.2 vs. 40.9 last month which was slightly positive to the soybean market. 

Bottom line - I expect and early low tonight and rally as the evening progresses but tomorrow I expect an early high and late low.  I expect the markets to be volatile tonight/tomorrow when the results of the Presidential race are known.  $281.20 is resistance for tomorrow and then up to $284.70 for the next level.


HOGS
As I said yesterday I thought the hog market would be mixed today and trade both sides of unchanged which we narrowly did.  The cutout number we had yesterday was negative but I felt the market already had some of it figured into the price.  I can't seem to find any positive fundamental news from the countryside and with that being said I can't seem to find any bullishness to the market.

There is nothing in the charts that would make me think we could rebound from these levels and with negative fundamentals and no technical indicators to get excited about I will remain short the market.  As I said yesterday we do have the Goldman roll coming up starting Friday I believe and going until approximately next Friday.  The roll will be selling the Dec '08 contract and buying the Feb '09.  Don't think the Dec '08 will lose value against the Feb '09 as a rule because these guys are professionals and can get their business done in ways that make logic look stupid!

Bottom line - I don't see any major rallies in the market at this time and I would expect more of the same from the market, continued lower movement until we see the cash and cutout come around.  Cutout was down $3.53 today so I expect very weak trade tomorrow.  The Dollar moved in our direction today but is still at elevated levels compared to earlier this year. 

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
11/04       153.4      57.55   80.84   60.03  41.34  87.31 38.80  65.71
Change :               -3.53   -3.63   -1.63  -4.85  -0.53 -6.52  -1.57
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .89 lwr   :  1.47 lwr   :  1.50 lwr   :   .08 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 43.50-55.00 : 43.50-55.00 : 43.50-55.00 : 46.00-54.73
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    53.21    :    53.43    :    53.65    :    52.53
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   21,657    :    9,432    :   13,359    :    8,098
==========================================================================

 

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

 

Hog & Corn Comments - 11-03-08 - A quiet day before one of the biggest elections in U.S. history.

Nov 03, 2008

Hog Comments - 11-03-08 - An quiet day before one of the biggest elections in U.S. history.


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec '08 corn opened relatively unchanged and then headed lower for a few minutes.  By the end of the first hour of trade corn made a high of $4.18 which would have been $.16 1/2 higher.  The first hour of trade was positive and suggested the market should close above the day session opening price of $4.02, which it did, closing at $4.03. 

It is interesting to note that Crude was down during the entire day session for Dec '08 corn as well as the U.S. Dollar Index being higher.  When corn made its rally it was doing it on its own and without help from the "outside" markets.  This type of action is positive in the sense that the commodities may be breaking further away from outside forces.  The only problem is when you have the outside market make huge historical moves it is hard for commodities not to follow in some fashion.  FCStone released its November yield estimate for corn this afternoon and the number was 153.4 vs. 151.70 in October.  The trade is expecting a larger corn yield so even though face value the increase looks negative I would call it neutral to mildly friendly.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 corn to open slightly lower tonight and sell off to find support.  I look for support at $3.95 1/2 and then down to $3.92 3/4 if we even get this low.  I am looking for early lows and late highs tonight and tomorrow.  Commodity funds were buyers of approximately 3,000 contracts today and I expect follow through buying tomorrow.  Resistance for tomorrow is $4.06 3/4, $4.09 1/2 and $4.18.  I expect corn to firm as the day progresses tomorrow.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal was once again strong; it opened at $275.40 or $2.40 better than Friday's closing price.  The first hour of trade was positive for Dec '08 meal but it failed to close above the opening price by $.20 which isn't a huge difference by any stretch.  I mentioned last week Thursday that I would like to see the Dec '08 futures close above $277.90 if we were to see follow through buying this week.  We didn't close above $277.90 so I am somewhat skeptical of a follow through rally this week.

I don't believe the market will tank, I am uncertain of its strength to make new highs above last week's which were $291.30.  Resistance for this week will be $279.90 and $291.30; support will be $268.90 and $261.40.  

Bottom line - I expect meal to open better this evening because of the FCStone crop survey having a soybean yield of 39.2 compared to last month's number of 39.4.  This alone isn't wildly bullish but the market looked firm prior to its release and this looks like a good news item to pin positive trade on.  I expect early lows and late highs during tonight and tomorrow's trade.  It feels like $277.70 and $280.80 are viable targets for tonight/tomorrow.  I expect meal to firm as the day progresses tomorrow.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs still can't seem to get out of the downhill slide it is on, other than the fact we were only down $.40 today which is a minor victory when you look at it.  I am still not friendly the Dec '08 contract because of cash prices and the outlook of the pork cutout.  The Goldman roll will begin this week applying pressure on the Dec '08 and supporting the Feb '09 contracts.  Even though the public knows that Goldman will be selling the Dec '08 and buying the Feb '09 contracts, they have an excellent way of getting their business done on their own terms and not allowing the market to move away from them too much.

If the Dec '08 contract trades higher tomorrow I see resistance at $55.35 and $56.05.  I don't think we can get a lot higher than these levels tomorrow.  I will continue to go with a lower call for tomorrow due to the lack of any fundamental news to get excited about.  The U.S. Dollar Index was up again today and we all know that doesn't help matters any.  

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 hogs to trade both sides of unchanged tomorrow.  We are oversold and we are due for a small correction, however, I feel the correction will be met with stiff resistance.  We will have the Goldman roll that begins later in the week and runs through next week to contend with which should provide some resistance as well.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
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         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
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11/03       103.8      61.08   84.47   61.66  46.19  87.83 45.33  67.28
Change :               -1.09    0.92   -3.51   0.01  -2.70 -2.34  -1.97
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National Direct Hog Price Comparison

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                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
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   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
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BARROWS & GILTS :   .49 lwr   :   .17 lwr   :   .03 hgr   :   .63 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 45.50-58.00 : 45.50-58.00 : 45.50-58.00 : 46.50-56.08
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    53.92    :    54.80    :    55.02    :    52.62
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Head Count      :   25,875    :   10,630    :   13,784    :   11,577
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Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

 


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