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November 2010 Archive for The Lean Hog Perspective

RSS By: Jeremy Knutson

This lean hog and feed commentary contains thoughts from Jeremy Knutson, a commodity broker with Hurley & Associates.

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/18/10 Feeds showing more signs of strength

Nov 18, 2010

 

 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/18/10 Feeds showing more signs of strength

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Corn – December corn finally had some follow-through to the upside today.  Although today’s day session range was relatively narrow, we continued to hold the support level of $5.36.  I mentioned yesterday that we needed to take imageout yesterday’s high of $5.36 relatively soon, this was accomplished in the overnight session.  Volume was rather light today coming in at only 133,000 contracts for the December corn futures, in recent days we have been reaching the 200,000 contract level.  The one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb on a daily chart is yesterday’s rejection of lower prices. Today follow-through price action would suggest that the market is looking to retrace back towards the $6.05 high, with probable stops at $5.57 and $5.68, which are the 50% and 62% retracement levels respectively.

The dollar index once again was under pressure today and looks like it could be looking for a break from its most recent run-up.  The 60 minute intraday chart suggests that the dollar should trade higher tomorrow.  As I mentioned in recent posts, now is the time to be consulting your risk manager to set up a plan to protect your operation from higher corn prices.

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest an early low and late high for tomorrows trade. 

 

 

 

 

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Meal – to reiterate what was stated yesterday, now is the time to be looking for opportunities to protect meal prices from moving higher.  Again I don’t want to be extremely imageaggressive in using straight futures contracts or flat priced cash contracts for an extended period of time.  I believe that adding some cash ownership and/or futures positions are warranted however a known risk strategy will be the safest in this volatile environment.  Some of the concerns of the market had with the world economy have been lessened and to some extent, which now brings the risk takers back into the market arena.

We are in a period now were hog producers need to focus on profit margin more than ever.  Legging into feed purchases or hog sales could be a catastrophic under the current volatility structure of the market.  Make sure you have a plan to lock in all three aspects of your crush if you are looking at doing anything.  If you do leg into something the safest thing to do is use a known risk strategy so you are flexible in the market.

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest meal makes an early high tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hogs – thanks to corn, soybeans and meal, the deferred hog contracts came to life today. Most of the contracts from February through August of 2011 traded over $1.50 higher for the day.  As I mentioned this week ,image I don’t expect much out of the December futures contract because of the Thanksgiving holiday coming up next week.  With the short week ahead of us, packers shouldn’t have to pay up for cash hogs, this should continue to keep cash prices under pressure therefore holding the December futures relatively stable.  The deferred months on the other hand, will have more of a relationship with the feed prices and the dollar index. 

Today’s price action in the deferred contracts looks encouraging in the sense that it seems as though the summer months of 2011 should challenge contract highs in the coming days.  It shouldn’t come as a surprise to see the backend contracts trade in unison with the corn market as we move forward over the coming weeks.  Remember to keep an eye on your crush margins for deferred delivery time frames and take a serious look at protecting profits if you can. Remember in these volatile times it can be very dangerous trying to lock in one leg of the crush without the others.

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest hogs make an early high tomorrow. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Check out www.anhog.net to find numerous USDA reports all in one convenient location.  Become a registered user and have access to pork cutout charts and the USDA 14 day hog slaughter schedule as a percentage of approximate daily kill capacity.

Below are some of the reports that are available as quick links on our home page.  If you would like to become a registered user to access more custom information please click here.

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Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/17/10 Grains rally early but settle lower so what will tomorrow bring?

Nov 17, 2010

 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/17/10 Grains rally early but settle lower so what will tomorrow bring?

If you have trouble viewing this page please visit the market commentary section of www.leanhog.net.  I know I don’t post as much as I used to due to time constraints but if you have a question please feel free to email it to me atleanhog@hurleyandassociates.com and I will do my best to get back to you as soon as I can.

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Corn – I said yesterday that I was looking for the corn market to rally which we did but we didn’t follow through with it.  I still think today’s trade activity was positive for the corn market and especially the daily chart but the market imagewill need to close above today’s high of $5.36 relatively soon.  The Decd ‘10 contract held the $5.24 1/4 low from the first hour of trade this morning so that suggests to me that we should see more upside tomorrow and if we do get above $5.36 I would expect to see some buy stops trigger.

The dollar index was lower today but just milled around and traded a range for most of the day which didn’t give the Ag markets much to go on.  The overnight session traded nearly 60,000 contracts in the Dec ‘10 contract alone.  This is big volume for one contract month in an overnight session.  If the Dec ‘10 contract wants to continue to move higher we are going to have to get a close above $5.29 3/4 on Friday in my opinion.  Continue to look for ways to minimize upside risk in corn prices with a known risk strategy.  Consult your risk manager right away!

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest an early low and late high for tomorrows trade. 

 

 

 

 

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Meal – We got close to filling our gap at $316.20 in the overnight session with a low of $320.00.  I have to say I didn’t think we would get low enough to fill it and granted we haven’timagebut it has gone lower than I suspected.  Like corn I think we are getting into an area where we are going to see prices run into support and find some buyers.  I’m not of the opinion of getting wildly covered with long futures for an extended period of time but I would for SURE want to make sure my upside risk is known for quite a few months out. 

We are in a period now were need to focus on profit margin more than ever.  Legging into feed purchases or hog sales could be a catastrophic under the current volatility structure of the market.  Make sure you have a plan to lock in all three aspects of your crush if you are looking at doing anything.  If you do leg into something the safest thing to do is use a known risk strategy so you are flexible with the market.

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest meal makes an early low tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hogs – Hogs were basically the dead horse today.  We had a very quiet and narrow range for the day session.  The Dec ‘10 contract looks like we should see some continued strength tomorrow but again there is very little excitement on the cash front right now.  Cutout was down today but not enough to spook the market considering the imagecash market was lower as well.  The weights continue to fall which is a good thing but with the Thanksgiving holiday is giving packers a lot of power over the next week.

I really have nothing to add to my comments from yesterday so I will re-post them below.

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest hogs make an early low tomorrow. 

After testing yesterday’s high of $69.85 the Dec ‘10 contract fell apart.  Again as I said yesterday the cash market remains weak with the packer sitting in the drivers seat.  The packers believe there is ample supply of hogs to get them through the next couple of weeks therefore there is no reason for them to push the market higher.  The cash was considerably lower at noon today if you believe anything on the noon report which seems to have as much value to the hog industry as a Peanuts cartoon in the Sunday paper.  That said there was very little volume in the noon report which would suggest the weighted average shouldn’t be as low as the noon report suggests. 

It is unfortunate that a lot of producers allow the packers a license to steal in which control is virtually handed over to the packers with all of the packer contracts out there.  If the independent hog producer wants to  stay in business and actually have and industry in which they can participate, we need to have more negotiated hogs out there.  There are a handful of hog producers out there trying to establish an honest cash market and what is the closest thing to knowing actual demand.  It is bothersome to see negotiated pigs be less that 5% of the daily kill and the rest of the market is priced off of what the packers use for their pricing contracts. 

I’m not saying don’t any packer contracts I’m just saying that the industry needs more negotiated pigs to help establish a fair price on a consistent basis.  If you have packer contracts and you know someone who negotiates pigs call them and visit about the pros and the cons.  If the current structure continues and commodity prices become more volatile we will more than likely see a lot of independent producers go by the way side and in turn kill the industry and the independent producer.

If negotiating cash hogs is a large part of your business operation I would be interested to hear from you as it never hurts to have a counter part to bounce ideas off of.  If you disagree with the thought of negotiating pigs I would also like to know why.  If you have time drop me an email with your thoughts at  leanhog@hurleyandassociates.com.  

Again, I’m not expecting much in the way of higher prices as we move into Thanksgiving week.  Steady at best to lower is my thought on the coming week and a half.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Check out www.leanhog.net to find numerous USDA reports all in one convenient location.  Become a registered user and have access to pork cutout charts and the USDA 14 day hog slaughter schedule as a percentage of approximate daily kill capacity.

Below are some of the reports that are available as quick links on our home page.  If you would like to become a registered user to access more custom information please click here.

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Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/16/10 Corn fills its gap and sets up for a possible rally tomorrow

Nov 16, 2010

 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/16/10 Corn fills its gap and sets up for a possible rally tomorrow

If you have trouble viewing this page please visit the market commentary section of www.leanhog.net.  I know I don’t post as much as I used to due to time constraints but if you have a question please feel free to email it to me atleanhog@hurleyandassociates.com and I will do my best to get back to you as soon as I can.

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Corn – Well filling the $5.28 1/4 gap didn’t take long to get out of the way.  I expected it to fill but I have to say I didn’t really expect it to happen today but again nothing is a surprise anymore.  Now that the $5.28 1/4 imagenumber is out of the way the bulls need to keep the market above $5.29 3/4 otherwise if we get two consecutive closes below $5.29 3/4 then we could see a test of $5.11 3/4.  If $5.11 3/4 is taken out then our next target is down at $4.75 which would be a 50% retracement back to our $3.43 1/4 low in June. 

I’m of the opinion that corn has done near enough to the downside for now.  We could trade lower early tomorrow but I’m expecting support to come into the market early.  The Dollar index has been on a rally as of late and I think tomorrow we could see some weakness in that market which should give some positive price undertones to the commodities markets.  Fundamentally we haven’t made any changes from last week so everything that is taking place is money management in my opinion.  If the market gaps lower (opens lower than $5.25 1/4 in the Dec ‘10 contract then it will generate a buy signal at $5.26 1/2 STOP.  If this happens I think it could put the breaks on the recent down turn in the market.  If we open higher then the market is poised to make one more push to the downside at least for now but I think we will see buying tomorrow.

Now is an excellent time to discuss a limited risk strategy with your risk manager on how to protect deferred corn prices in some form or fashion!!  Unless you have acceptable profits in your crush margin that you can live with, I would use known risk strategies to protect prices for margin call reasons as well as volatility reasons.

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest an early low and late high for tomorrows trade. 

 

 

 

 

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Meal – First off, my apologies.  I said yesterday that the gap in Dec ‘10 meal was at $321.80 which was wrong, it is at $316.20.  I’m not sure how I messed that up but I did and again I’m sorry.  imageI’m still of the opinion that we will not fill the gap in the Dec ‘10 meal at $316.20 as I think we have done enough to the downside for now.  I believe that support at $325.70 should hold based on the way the Dollar index looks as well as the intra day charts in meal.  The USDA data is still friendly to the soybean market but hot money is exiting some positions and taking the market lower.  

We are in a period now were need to focus on profit margin more than ever.  Legging into feed purchases or hog sales could be a catastrophic under the current volatility structure of the market.  Make sure you have a plan to lock in all three aspects of your crush if you are looking at doing anything.  If you do leg into something the safest thing to do is use a known risk strategy so you are flexible with the market.

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest meal makes an early low tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hogs – After testing yesterday’s high of $69.85 the Dec ‘10 contract fell apart.  Again as I said yesterday the cash market remains weak with the packer sitting in the drivers seat.  The packers believe there is ample supply of hogs to get them through the next couple of weeks therefore there is no reason for them to push the market higher.  The cash was considerably lower at noon today if you believe anything on the noon report which seems to have as much value to the hog industry as a Peanuts cartoon in the Sunday paper.  That said there was very little volume in the noon report which would suggest the weighted average shouldn’t be as low as the noon report suggests. 

It is unfortunate that a lot of producers allow the packers a license to steal in which control is virtually handed over to the packers with all of the packer contracts out there.  If the independent hog producer wants to imagestay in business and actually have and industry in which they can participate, we need to have more negotiated hogs out there.  There are a handful of hog producers out there trying to establish an honest cash market and what is the closest thing to knowing actual demand.  It is bothersome to see negotiated pigs be less that 5% of the daily kill and the rest of the market is priced off of what the packers use for their pricing contracts. 

I’m not saying don’t any packer contracts I’m just saying that the industry needs more negotiated pigs to help establish a fair price on a consistent basis.  If you have packer contracts and you know someone who negotiates pigs call them and visit about the pros and the cons.  If the current structure continues and commodity prices become more volatile we will more than likely see a lot of independent producers go by the way side and in turn kill the industry and the independent producer.

If negotiating cash hogs is a large part of your business operation I would be interested to hear from you as it never hurts to have a counter part to bounce ideas off of.  If you disagree with the thought of negotiating pigs I would also like to know why.  If you have time drop me an email with your thoughts at  leanhog@hurleyandassociates.com.  

Again, I’m not expecting much in the way of higher prices as we move into Thanksgiving week.  Steady at best to lower is my thought on the coming week and a half.

 

 

 

 

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest hogs make an early low tomorrow. 

 

 

 

 


Check out www.leanhog.net to find numerous USDA reports all in one convenient location.  Become a registered user and have access to pork cutout charts and the USDA 14 day hog slaughter schedule as a percentage of approximate daily kill capacity.

Below are some of the reports that are available as quick links on our home page.  If you would like to become a registered user to access more custom information please click here.

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Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/15/10 China rumors reverse Friday’s corn action

Nov 15, 2010

 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/15/10 China rumors reverse Friday’s corn action

If you have trouble viewing this page please visit the market commentary section of www.leanhog.net.  I know I don’t post as much as I used to due to time constraints but if you have a question please feel free to email it to me atleanhog@hurleyandassociates.com and I will do my best to get back to you as soon as I can.

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Corn – Rumors surfaced over the weekend that China was working with Argentina to secure a corn purchase program.  This was viewed as friendly to the corn market because even though the corn imagewasn’t coming from the United States it is still supply that is being drawn from and a sign of possibly more Chinese demand down the road.  Last weeks action was quite negative on the weekly chart showing a key reversal but it isn’t the first time we’ve seen a key reversal in the weekly chart and the market shot back and rallied $1.50 in the face of it!  The fundamental picture has changed so drastically over the last six months that any kind of break in the market warrants a look to secure a strategy to put a ceiling in feed corn.

Technically corn should move lower and fill the $5.28 1/4 gap that it left in the December 2010 contract over a month ago.  If the market does decide to make a 50% retracement it would take the Dec ‘10 contract down to $4.75 but I see this as unlikely at this time.  The market wants to be bullish but as we saw on Friday of last week, we have to be careful because of the length in the market.  When people want to get out they get out and it is fast and furious!  In my opinion we should have closed the Dec ‘10 contract toward $5.66 1/2 if we are going to see follow through to the upside tomorrow.  We didn’t accomplish that so I’m of the opinion that we make an early high tomorrow and then drift. 

Bottom line – I think we came too close to the $5.28 1/4 gap to not fill it.  I don’t know why the market would want to leave unfinished business out there being we are so close.  The intraday charts suggest an early high and late low for tomorrows trade.  I think we are in for a volatile ride as we move forward (I know, a genius statement).

 

 

 

 

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Meal – interesting to see how the soy complex has now become the leader in the grains because of the USDA’s ever vanishing crop.  I guess it doesn’t matter what I think because the USDA numbers are the USDA numbers imageand that is what the industry has to go off of other than private analysts but to a lesser degree.  Like corn, meal had an ugly week last week but it wasn’t as bad as our friend corn.  The meal market is much higher than the gap it left at $321.80 and I don’t think it has any intention of filling that gap anytime soon based on current USDA data. 

We are in a period now were need to focus on profit margin more than ever.  Legging into feed purchases or hog sales could be a catastrophic under the current volatility structure of the market.  Make sure you have a plan to lock in all three aspects of your crush if you are looking at doing anything.  If you do leg into something the safest thing to do is use a known risk strategy so you are flexible with the market.

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest meal makes an early high tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hogs – Hogs traded both sides of unchanged today and closed the day strong in the face of weaker cash markets.  The noon cutout report suggested bellies could be higher at the end of the day and there wasn’t anything on the cutout report that said cutout was going to fall out of bed.  It appears as if the cash market is getting into Holiday mode already as packers are holding their cards close and not willing to pay up for hogs.  Although I’m not bearish hogs long-term because of the rising feed costs, I do think the next couple of weeks will be somewhat stressful if you are long imagethe market.

There are stories making the rounds that some producers are choosing to exit the industry to salvage the equity they have left as they don’t want to fight big money in the markets and rising feed costs.  The volatility in the market leave little room for error and some guys are just saying it isn’t worth it.  I’m not saying we are seeing mass liquidation, I’m just saying it is unlikely for producers to wait or hang on as long as they didn’t last time before they say enough is enough.  Two reasons being not enough equity and not enough emotional endurance to withstand another bout of losses.

Looking forward at what margins are in the deferred months are going to be a key factor in profitability and sustainability for the future.  The market typically gives us a chance to lock in profits at one point or another but we have to constantly monitor the profitability levels of our operations.

 

 

 

Bottom line – The intraday charts suggest hogs make an early high tomorrow. 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Check out www.leanhog.net to find numerous USDA reports all in one convenient location.  Become a registered user and have access to pork cutout charts and the USDA 14 day hog slaughter schedule as a percentage of approximate daily kill capacity.

Below are some of the reports that are available as quick links on our home page.  If you would like to become a registered user to access more custom information please click here.

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Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

 

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