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November 2011 Archive for The Lean Hog Perspective

RSS By: Jeremy Knutson

This lean hog and feed commentary contains thoughts from Jeremy Knutson, a commodity broker with Hurley & Associates.

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/10/11 Hog Prices Were All Over Today. Roll To Blame?

Nov 10, 2011

 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/10/11 Hog Prices Were All Over Today. Roll To Blame?

Corn – Dec ’11 had enormous volume the last couple of days and is building up for a breakout of the current $6.25 to $6.65 range that we have been in for nearly a month.  I favor the upside on this breakout but I’m beginning to question whether or not it will happen.  Fundamentally I think we have every reason to breakout to the upside because of the USDA’s magic numbers (continued feed reduction) they come out with each month.

The market currently seems poised to try and test the $6.30ish level of support but I have a tough time getting a good handle on this market at the moment.  It is like a Jekyll and Hyde type trade.  It is still a great time to use know risk strategies to control feed costs for the foreseeable future!  

Bottom Line – I expect an early low and a late high for tomorrows trade.

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Meal – Dec ’11 is currently below $300!  There is a buy signal created on the weekly chart at $299.50 stop which will be good for this week and next.  This isn’t a recommendation but the way these markets have been trading, now is a great time to protect upside price risk with a known risk strategy. 

Bottom Line – I’m looking for an early low tomorrow.

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Hogs – Feb ’12 had an interesting day today as the market rallied on news of… ahhh, nothing?  Yep, sounds to me like our good friends at Goldman Sachs were creating some liquidity today by pushing the market higher to hit buy stops and get small specs long the market.  Once everyone was long today then the market sold off so the big boys could buy the futures contracts that the weak specs were selling out of.  Is this fact?  No, but it is what I believe happened.  The interesting thing to me is that the market backed off going into the close and really didn’t do much for the day.

I’m still of the opinion that we test the $85.50ish area in the Feb ’12 contract before we find some solid bottom-picking in the market.  The cash market sounds sick and would expect most producers to stay as current as they can moving into the new year.  It sounds like there are plenty of hogs in the countryside for packers to choose from.  The frustrating part about this is they may still need pigs but they will not pay up for them.  I would expect this to be the case as it is what I hear from our network of cash negotiators.  This network is for the benefit of the industry so if you are so inclined please join in!  See details below.

Bottom Line – I’m looking for an early high in the Feb ’12 hog contract for tomorrow.

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CASH HOG PRICE SHARING NETWORK

We have been using Twitter as a tool to share negotiated cash hog information since April 2011 and it has been working well.  We still need more participants to build our network and provide more valuable information to producers that sell open market pigs or are thinking about getting into the negotiated market to some degree.

There is a lot of work to be done in getting more negotiated hogs into the mix of our daily slaughter.  Industry experts suggest that we need 10% of the daily slaughter to have fair price discovery and we are currently running below 5% on most days!  If there are not enough negotiated pigs in the future then new packer contracts will more than likely be based off of the product and what cutout does.  The hog producers would be hurt by a move like this because there would be absolutely no control over their marketing’s.  Export business DOES NOT show up in our cutout reports.

If you are interested in what goes out on Twitter just visit www.markethogs.com which will bring you to my twitter page and you can see what is posted.  We have producers setup so these messages go directly to their cell phones in the form of a text message to keep producers as up to date as possible on cash news. 

Producer hog margins are still very good at the moment but don’t expect them to last forever.  If you haven’t made any moves in the market please review your situation and visit with your risk manager about a plan!!  If you have been caught in the MF Global debacle and need help with your account and are looking for a place to call home you can give our office a call as we would be glad to help.  Our toll-free number is             1-877-212-2564      .

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Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/08/11 Technical Damage Done In Hog Futures

Nov 08, 2011

 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/08/11 Technical Damage Done In Hog Futures

Corn – Dec ’11 corn finally had some volume trade today and managed to close above the $6.55 1/2 level that has been so difficult to get above.  I’m of the opinion that the market wants to break out above the $6.65 1/2 area and travel up toward the $7.00 area.  All bets are off with tomorrow’s Monthly USDA Crop Production report.

The market has been trading sideway’s to higher since the middle of October with inability to close above $6.55 1/2.  We had that close today which leads me to believe that tomorrow’s report will bring us bullish information. 

Bottom Line – The crop report will trump technicals tomorrow but I expect an early low and a late high.

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Meal – Dec ’11 meal continues to hang out here with very little movement.  I’m of the opinion that the meal market is poised to move higher but has yet had good reason to do so.  Tomorrow’s report could give us the reason that the market has been looking for.  $300.00 continues to be support in the Dec ’11 contract and I expect that to hold at this time.

Bottom Line – I’m looking for an early low tomorrow.

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Hogs – Feb ’12 hogs finally dropped below the 50% retracement level of $89.80 level that I spoke of last week.  The Feb contract doesn’t have any good support below us until we get to the $86.45 area.  I expect $86.45 to be test this week and if we can’t hold that level as support then I expect a test down to $85.07.  There was good volume at lower prices today in the cash market which hasn’t happened all that much over recent months.  I think we are finally getting to some extra hogs and packers have good supply booked leaving little room for producers to negotiate higher sales.

I’m of the opinion that the market continues to move lower for the time being, however, I don’t think we are in a doom and gloom situation as far as hog prices falling and not looking back.  I do think the crush margins will see continued pressure from rising feed costs and weaker pork prices.  I would expect some reprieve after the first of the year. 

Bottom Line – I’m looking for an early high in the Feb ’12 hog contract for tomorrow.

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CASH HOG PRICE SHARING NETWORK

We have been using Twitter as a tool to share negotiated cash hog information since April 2011 and it has been working well.  We still need more participants to build our network and provide more valuable information to producers that sell open market pigs or are thinking about getting into the negotiated market to some degree.

There is a lot of work to be done in getting more negotiated hogs into the mix of our daily slaughter.  Industry experts suggest that we need 10% of the daily slaughter to have fair price discovery and we are currently running below 5% on most days!  If there are not enough negotiated pigs in the future then new packer contracts will more than likely be based off of the product and what cutout does.  The hog producers would be hurt by a move like this because there would be absolutely no control over their marketing’s.  Export business DOES NOT show up in our cutout reports.

If you are interested in what goes out on Twitter just visit www.markethogs.com which will bring you to my twitter page and you can see what is posted.  We have producers setup so these messages go directly to their cell phones in the form of a text message to keep producers as up to date as possible on cash news. 

Producer hog margins are still very good at the moment but don’t expect them to last forever.  If you haven’t made any moves in the market please review your situation and visit with your risk manager about a plan!!  If you have been caught in the MF Global debacle and need help with your account and are looking for a place to call home you can give our office a call as we would be glad to help.  Our toll-free number is             1-877-212-2564      .

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Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/02/11 Beginning of the end for lean hogs?

Nov 02, 2011

 

Hog & Corn Comments – 11/02/11 Beginning of the end for lean hogs?

Corn – Dec ’11 corn backed off today but not really to much surprise.  The market made just over a 62% retracemement of yesterday’s range and firmed going into the close.  I’m of the opinion that we could see additional buying come into the market tomorrow.  The corn market has an immediate target of $6.65 and then up to the $6.77.  If $6.65 is breached to the upside there should be a considerable amount of buy stops above this level which should give the market a little pop above $6.65.

I’m thinking that we should see small follow through selling early tonight and then find a bottom prior to the 6:00 a.m. CST close.  Speak with your risk manager about covering corn feed needs for the future if you haven’t already.  This break in price has a blessing and needs to be taken advantage of in some form.  Visit with a or your risk manager for the best solution for your situation.

Bottom Line – I’m looking for an early low and late high tomorrow.

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Meal – Dec ’11 meal has been lagging the last couple of weeks and giving end users nothing but time to make purchasing decisions.  The same goes for meal as it does for corn, make sure you visit with your risk manager and get your needs calculated and covered.  I’m expecting the Dec ’11 meal futures to make a run back toward the $335 area over the coming weeks unless the outside markets provide us with extremely negative news.  Outside markets aside, I see meal showing signs of support at current levels.

Bottom Line – I’m looking for an early low tomorrow.

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Hogs – Feb ’12 hogs retreated some today.  The market has been resilient over the past few days.  In my opinion the Feb ’12 futures are just about ready to make a slide lower and try to test  $88.35 and then all the way down to $86.50 and last but not least, $85.00.  I’m hearing rumblings of more available pigs coming to market between now and the new year.  Packers have good margin but if they also have good supply they are not going to want to pay up for open market hogs either. 

The prudent thing to do would be stay current with your cash marketing’s and make sure that you don’t get caught at the mercy of the packers when the leverage slides back their way.  We have been using Twitter as a tool to share negotiated cash hog information since April 2011 and it has been working well.  We still need more participants to build our network and provide more valuable information to producers that sell open market pigs or are thinking about getting into the negotiated market to some degree.

There is a lot of work to be done in getting more negotiated hogs into the mix of our daily slaughter.  Industry experts suggest that we need 10% of the daily slaughter to have fair price discovery and we are currently running below 5% on most days!  If there are not enough negotiated pigs in the future then new packer contracts will more than likely be based off of the product and what cutout does.  The hog producers would be hurt by a move like this because there would be absolutely no control over their marketing’s.  Export business DOES NOT show up in our cutout reports.

If you are interested in what goes out on Twitter just visit www.markethogs.com which will bring you to my twitter page and you can see what is posted.  We have producers setup so these messages go directly to their cell phones in the form of a text message to keep producers as up to date as possible on cash news. 

Producer hog margins are still very good at the moment but don’t expect them to last forever.  If you haven’t made any moves in the market please review your situation and visit with your risk manager about a plan!!  If you have been caught in the MF Global debacle and need help with your account and are looking for a place to call home you can give our office a call as we would be glad to help.  Our toll-free number is 1-877-212-2564.

Bottom Line – I’m looking for an early high in the Feb ’12 hog contract for tomorrow.


Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

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