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October 2008 Archive for The Lean Hog Perspective

RSS By: Jeremy Knutson

This lean hog and feed commentary contains thoughts from Jeremy Knutson, a commodity broker with Hurley & Associates.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-30-08 - Grains take a breath as hogs choke.

Oct 30, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-30-08 - Grains take a breath as hogs choke.



Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com


Due to time restrictions I am writing my comments prior to the close of the Dow Jones which may affect the accuracy of my comments.

 

CORN
Dec '08 corn opened at $4.16 this morning, rallied to $4.17 and then fell apart.  I said yesterday that I thought we would have a neutral to lower opening last night and then find follow through buying from yesterday's close.  That is exactly what happened, we had a quiet open and then rallied through my resistance number of $4.27 3/4 and got to $4.33 for last night's high.  The other number of $4.11 1/2 found some support early today but then gave way to the selling and the market dropped to $4.02 1/4 before bouncing prior to the close.

Dec '08 corn still has some downside left in it tonight and MAYBE early tomorrow.  I expect corn to open slightly better tonight and then sell off after a small very small rally.  I am not bearish corn at this level just yet, I think we are correcting from our recent gains however we haven't done anything to change the trend from down to up so keep that in mind as well.

Bottom line - I expect a better opening tonight and a small bounce only to be met with selling around $4.17 if the market even gets that high.  I would say we have a chance to test our low of $4.02 1/4 tonight and then tomorrow I expect early lows for the session and late highs.  The market also left a gap at $4.20 that we should fill in the near future as well, maybe even late in the session tomorrow.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal made a high of $288.90 last night which is just above the $286.80 I talked about in my comments from yesterday.  It looks like Dec '08 meal should open better tonight and find some minor buying and then hit resistance again around today's high of $284.10 to $285.50.  The meal complex was the strongest commodity in the Ag markets today as the Dec contract closed $.30 higher on the day.

Bottom line - I expect the Dec '08 contract to be higher tonight and should find some resistance and then probably trade lower for most of the evening.  I think we may see early lows during the day session tomorrow though.  Last week's high was $277.90 and if Dec '08 meal closes above this level tomorrow it would be viewed as positive and I would look for more follow through buying next week.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs did what I thought today which was trade lower considering the cutout number being down so much last night; I guess it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out though!  The market was weak all day but was surprisingly firm in the back end months such as April '09 which only closed $.47 lower compared to the $1.57 lower close by the Dec '08 contract.

I am still not friendly the Dec '08 contract, I still think we could test our contract low of $55.45 tomorrow.  The contract low is only $.55 below our close today and is well within reach for tomorrow's trade.  

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 hogs to be weak again tomorrow and I expect a test of the $55.45 area at some point in the day.  The US Dollar traded just below unchanged all day and wasn't much of an issue in today's markets.  I also think we will have an early low in the Dec '08 contract tomorrow and see some short covering going into the close and into the weekend.

 The cutout number is not included today because I am posting prior to its release.

 

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  1.43 lwr   :  1.40 lwr   :  1.18 lwr   :   .38 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 49.25-57.70 : 52.00-57.70 : 49.25-57.70 : 50.00-55.41
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    54.85    :    55.91    :    56.13    :    52.95
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   21,934    :    8,883    :   13,172    :    8,582
==========================================================================

 

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


Hog & Corn Comments - 10-29-08 - Grains take off and leave hogs behind.

Oct 29, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-29-08 - Grains take off and leave hog behind.


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
I waited until the Dow Jones closed today before writing my comments unlike yesterday!  We had the perfect storm in the corn market today.  The U.S. Dollar basically crashed down over 200+ points for most of the day, crude oil was up $5.51 and the Dow Jones was all over the place waiting for the Fed's decision on interest rate cuts.  When Dec '08 corn closed today the Dow Jones was basically unchanged and then fell to 74 lower at the close of the Dow.  The Fed's did cut the rate by .50% which is what Wall Street was looking for and expecting.  Stocks made most of the daily range in the last hour of trade.

Dec '08 closed up limit today at $.30 higher and settled at $4.20 3/4.   The one thing I notice about days that we close toward our high is that we typically gap higher at the beginning of the next session.  If the market gaps higher tonight, I would expect some follow through buying and then some selling should surface.  I expect resistance at $4.27 3/4 tonight and then sell off some.  

Bottom line - I expect tonight's open to be neutral to lower and then find follow through buying.  I say lower because the Dow Jones sold off going into the close.  If we open lower I expect the market to find some buyers and then take us up to $4.27 3/4 before hitting resistance.  If $4.27 3/4 violated then the next level of resistance is $4.42 1/2.  I expect the market to respect $4.27 3/4 for resistance and $4.11 1/2 for support during tonight and tomorrows markets.  If the Dollar continues to crash and crude maintains its rally we could see better markets all day tomorrow.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal started its rally around 10:00 a.m. this morning and follow through for most of the day but had trouble holding a limit up bid at $286.80.  I was surprised we couldn't hold the meal market firm all day considering corn was up limit for most of the day.  

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 meal to slightly lower tonight and then find buyers and rally toward today's high of $286.80 and if it really gets crazy we could go to $291.30 from Sunday nights high.  I don't think we will have a runaway market to the upside tomorrow like we did today unless we have the Dollar weak and crude oil strong again.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 lean hogs did very little again today with a trade range of $1.05 it was relatively quiet compared to corn, soybeans and the outside markets.  I don't understand why hogs have rallied when the Dollar was moving higher and now that it tanked today the market moves lower.???  After seeing the cutout number this afternoon I guess someone knew about it before it came out and that was some of the reason for the decline.

I have been saying for the last couple of commentaries that I didn't/don't like the Dec '08 hog contract and today's cutout number may prove me right.  Cutout was down $2.51 today which is a very large one day drop; cash was up slightly so the packer margin just tightened.  With the fundamental news we had today I don't think the contract low of $55.45 is safe any longer.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 hogs to be very weak tomorrow on the heels of tonight's cutout number.  I believe some of it was factored into today's trade but the balance will hit tomorrow.  Some to the buying over the past few sessions was short covering so we could see more selling come into the market tomorrow.  I expect a test of $56.60 which was today's low in the Globex pit and a probable test of the contract low of $55.45 either tomorrow or Friday.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
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         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
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10/29       117.9      62.66   85.45   66.05  46.36  88.97 47.94  69.18
Change :               -2.51   -2.86   -1.01   4.34  -3.89 -6.77  -1.46
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .35 hgr   :  1.04 hgr   :   .75 hgr   :   .09 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 49.50-58.65 : 50.50-58.65 : 49.50-58.65 : 50.00-55.41
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    55.82    :    57.24    :    57.09    :    53.18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   23,966    :   13,336    :   16,165    :    7,621
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-28-08 - USDA drops the ball in the Oct 10th report.

Oct 28, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-28-08 - USDA drops the ball in the Oct 10th report.



Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

USDA CORRECTS OCTOBER CROP ACREAGE ESTIMATES

Contact: Keith Williams, (202) 720-4623 or Ellen Dougherty, (202) 690-8122

WASHINGTON, OCT. 28, 2008 – The U.S. Department of Agriculture today adjusted its official October acreage and production estimates for six field crops. USDA revised the numbers after discovering discrepancies in a Farm Service Agency (FSA) database of producer-reported crop acreage used by the National Agricultural Statistics Service (NASS). NASS published the changes this morning in a corrected version of the Oct. 10 Crop Production. The World Agricultural Outlook Board also issued an abbreviated World Agricultural Supply and Demand Estimates (WASDE) report reflecting the acreage updates.

This morning’s crop report includes changes to acreage and production estimates for corn, soybeans, sorghum, canola, sunflowers and dry edible beans. The revisions will have no impact on crop support payments to farmers.

Compared to the Oct. 10 release, the corrected Crop Production report reflects 1.2 percent fewer planted acres for corn, 1.4 percent fewer planted acres for soybeans, 1.9 percent fewer acres planted acres for canola, 0.8 percent fewer planted acres for sunflowers, and 0.7 percent fewer planted acres for dry edible beans. The report also reflects a 2.5 percent increase in planted acres for sorghum. Even with the reduced acreage estimates, the 2008 corn crop is still on track to be the second largest on record, while the soybean crop will be the fourth largest.

The revised WASDE report lowers projected supplies, use and ending stocks for both corn and soybeans. Price forecasts are raised slightly for both commodities. Sorghum supply and use projections are revised to reflect the higher forecasted production.

In calculating crop acreage, NASS draws upon several data sources, including farmer surveys, satellite imagery and information reported by producers to FSA. In the original Oct. 10 report, NASS’s production estimates were within the range of projections from private industry and other sources. Those independent projections had corn production ranging from 11.8 to 12.3 billion bushels and soybean production ranging 2.85 to 3 billion bushels. NASS projected 12.2 billion bushels of corn and 2.98 billion bushels of soybeans.

After the Oct. 10 reports were issued, FSA analysts noted a discrepancy between the raw data on its mainframe and the data it had provided to NASS on a system known internally as a “data mart.” The data mart correlates and organizes the raw data for presentation to FSA county staff, NASS and other users in a more concise and accessible format.

USDA analysts have confirmed that data mart information used in previous reports was consistent with the information in the FSA mainframe database. Database management experts will review the discrepancies in the October data, focusing on how the two systems interact and how the mainframe data are transmitted and translated into the format used in the data mart.

This morning’s corrected Crop Production report uses data from the FSA mainframe database, as will the Nov. 10 report.

As part of its comprehensive review process, USDA has notified the Office of Inspector General of the data discrepancy. Additionally, USDA has informed market regulators at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission.

 

 

 

 

SOURCE - USDA

MY COMMENTS WERE WRITTEN PRIOR TO THE DOW JONES CLOSING 890 HIGHER TODAY...  THE DOW WILL TRUMP MY COMMENTS.

CORN
Let me get this straight, the USDA made a revision to the Oct 10th report because they found discrepancies?  The statement suggested a change to acres but they also lowered demand for corn.  The ending result for corn was a gross 167 million bushel decline in production from the Oct 10th report BUT they lowered the feed and residual by 50 million bushels and also exports by 50 million bushels.  All of the changes had a net effect of a 67 million bushel reduction in this year's carryout so what seemed bullish was actually no big deal.

Dec '08 corn opened much higher than it needed to today.  It opened the day session at $4.07 which is just below the number of $4.07 1/2 that I thought we would reach at some point this week.  I still need to see the market close above $3.90 1/4 before I get excited about another challenge of $4.07 1/2.  $3.86 3/4 is the 50% retracement back to the Sunday night low of $3.64 and this level needs to hold if the market has any shot of moving higher from here.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 corn to open slightly better tonight and find resistance at $3.97 3/4 if we even get that high.   It feels like the market wants to sell off and maybe touch $3.81 1/4 which is our next area of support.  If $3.81 1/4 doesn't hold support and we close below it I would expect another test of $3.64.  It feels like corn wants to be weak tomorrow and that is my call for tomorrow, weaker trade for Dec '08.  The daily chart is suggesting a possible sideways trade range between $3.64 and $4.09 in the Dec '08 contract, we will see.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 soybean meal had a tremendous gain in the overnight and early day session based on anticipation of a bullish revision to soybean acres.  Like corn the USDA reduced the production number by 45 million bushels but also lowered the export business by 30 million bushels for a net decrease in carryout of 15 million bushels.  I was surprised to see the market sell off as much as it did today considering the revision wasn't negative but it really wasn't bullish by any stretch either.  

Dec '08 meal needs to close back above $276.40 in the near future if it wants to challenge the high set last night of 291.30.  If it doesn't close above $276.40 then I would anticipate a test of $261.40 in the near future. 

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 meal to open higher tonight and test $271.20 before it finds resistance and backs off.  Based on the hourly chart it suggests meal should make an early high and late low tonight/tomorrow.  I will go with a weaker call for tomorrow but the Dow Jones was around 150 points higher when meal closed and is now trading 600 points higher as I write this.

 

HOGS
I really don't have much to say about hogs other than I still don't like the way the Dec '08 chart looks.  I still think we have some downside in the Dec '08 contract.  There was nothing special about today's trade as we only had $1.00 trade range today from high to low.  The noon reports had cash lower once again which is really no surprise.  The U.S. Dollar Index is now trading lower as the Dow Jones makes new highs but the strong dollar hasn't helped hogs any in recent weeks. 

I believe we will still see lower prices for Dec '08 hogs either tomorrow or yet  this week.  I still think we could see another test of $57.60 and probably even down to $57.20 and I am still not ruling out the low of $56.00.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 hogs to trade lower tomorrow based on the charts.  If we do trade higher I think today's high of $58.57 (Globex pit) should hold as good resistance.  I anticipate a test of $57.20 tomorrow at some time. 

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/28       105.1      65.17   88.31   67.06  42.02  92.86 54.71  70.64
Change :                0.11   -0.04   -1.33  -0.05  -0.19  1.18   0.10
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  1.11 lwr   :  1.81 lwr   :  1.57 lwr   :   .62 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 50.00-58.75 : 50.00-58.75 : 50.00-58.75 : 52.32-55.41
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    54.85    :    55.70    :    55.99    :    53.10
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   16,014    :    6,908    :    9,605    :    6,346
==========================================================================

 


Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


Hog & Corn Comments - 10-27-08 - An all day rally in corn and hogs stay firm.

Oct 27, 2008


Hog Comments - 10-27-08 - An all day rally in corn and hogs stay firm.

 

Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com



CORN

Dec '08 corn didn't follow the overnight action of being $.05 lower, it actually opened about 1/4 cent higher.  The overnight news was the equity and foreign stock markets tumbling once again.  The Dow Jones futures were down over 200 points at one time in the overnight session.  The Dow opened lower and traded as much as 174 lower but rallied as the session went on.  It was towards its high when the Ag markets closed this afternoon.

Dec '08 didn't spend much time lower today; as a matter of fact, it mostly traded lower during the first hour of trade then spent the balance of the day firmer.  The Dec contract has a big weekly buy signal at $3.71 1/2 which is conditional.  We need the market to close above this level on Friday and hold gains into next week.  If the signal is good it could be a violent move higher from here.  I am not holding my breath just yet.  I am just pointing out the signal.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 corn to open slightly lower tonight because the Dow Jones sold off around 350+ points from the time corn closed to the close of the Dow Jones.  $3.75 1/2 and then down to $3.72 3/4 should provide support this evening and tomorrow with an initial upside target of $3.90 1/4 to $3.94 1/4.  I expect a test of $4.07 1/2 if we can close the market above $3.90 1/4.  I expect corn to follow the Dow futures tonight until we get a better feel for things in the morning.  I feel there should be buy stops above todays high of $3.87 tomorrow.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal opened the day session slightly better than the overnight close.  The open was the low of the day for Dec '08 meal, it didn't look back.  If the Dec '08 meal contract closes above $279.20 then I think we could target $286.70 very easily.  I expect the meal market to open weaker tonight for the same reasons in corn, the Dow dropping around 350 points from the Ag close to the Dow close.  

Bottom line - I expect the meal market to continue is firm feel but it should follow the financial markets to some degree tomorrow.  I expect support to be $269.90 to $267.90 tonight and tomorrow but I feel $269.90 should hold assuming we don't have a global market meltdown tonight.  It feels like the market wants to test $286.70 this week but I still need to see a close above $279.20 before I will get that excited.  I expect early lows and late highs in the meal market tonight/tomorrow.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs traded as much as $.77 lower today only to come back and close higher on the day by $.05.  Did  I mention the U.S. Dollar Index was making new highs for 2008 again today and hogs still rallied?  I will not complain!  I don't see how the Dec '08 contract can hold this little rally its had, I am not friendly the Dec '08 contract at all but it seems to stay firm.

Today we touched the 50% retracement level of $59.15 in Dec '08 hogs by making a high of $59.17 and then backing off the high by $.60.  I am expecting a lower day tomorrow in the Dec '08 contract because I don't like the chart and also the cash and cutout numbers were lower, cash down around $1.35 and cutout down $.91.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 hogs to trade lower tomorrow and touch possible support of $57.60 and then a possibility of $57.20 after that.  The resistance levels for tomorrow are $59.15 and $60.00; I don't think either of the resistance points will be tested tomorrow.  I expect a lower opening tonight and follow through into tomorrow's day session for an overall weaker day in hogs.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/27        46.3      65.06   88.35   68.39  42.07  93.06 53.52  70.54
Change :               -0.91   -0.66   -0.16  -0.36  -0.97 -0.65  -3.31
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  1.37 lwr   :  1.57 lwr   :  1.62 lwr   :   .56 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 49.25-60.47 : 49.25-60.25 : 49.25-60.47 : 50.50-59.12
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    55.73    :    57.79    :    57.66    :    53.72
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   21,159    :    7,179    :   10,516    :   10,413
==========================================================================

 

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-23-08 - Grains get a small recovery and hogs are balanced.

Oct 23, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-23-08 - Grains get a small recovery and hogs are balanced.


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com
Side note: I have a big buy signal on the weekly Crude Oil chart at $68.75.  This is a conditional buy signal meaning I would like to see the market close above $68.75 this week and not trade below it next week.  If it does trade below $68.75 next week then I would like to see it close above $68.75 next week for sure but if it doesn't then the signal is gone.  This is one of those signals were if it is good, the market makes a big move.  This isn't a recommendation, it is an observation.  There is an OPEC meeting tomorrow as well that could affect oil prices significantly.
 
CORN
There was some enthusiasm in the corn market today which was a little more than I expected.  I thought we would be lower last night which we were and then move higher and touch $3.91 today.  We touched $3.91 but didn't stop there, we kept going until we hit $4.01 3/4.  I was impressed with Dec '08 corn today as it held firm in light of the Dow Jones dropping 300 points off of its high as the grain markets were closing.  The Dow Jones closed 172 points higher on the day which should bring support to tonights trade.
 
Dec '08 corn closed at $3.90 1/4 today which is below the $4.00 level I would have like to see it close above.  The close was still above the 62% retracement back to last nights low of $3.79 and if we hold this level of support tonight I would expect another test of $4.01 3/4.
 
Bottom line - I expect corn to open higher tonight and find follow through buying.  I think we will see some resistance at $3.96 but not enough to stop the market.  I feel we will test the $4.01 3/4 high either tonight or tomorrow.

 
MEAL
Dec '08 meal had a good run today closing at $269.00 today up $11.70.  I said yesterday that I had a target of $272.10 and today's high was $272.40 so this objective has been met.  I expect a test of $279.20 possibly tomorrow and if not tomorrow then early next week.  If the Dec '08 meal closes above $267.00 tomorrow that would confirm a bottom in the Dec '08 meal based on what I look at.
 
Dec '08 has resistance tomorrow at today's high of $272.40 and then up to $279.20, the support levels for tomorrow are $265.50 and then down to $263.90.  The Dow Jones is now up off of the low that were set at approximately 12:30 pm cst today which will give the Ag markets some strength going into the overnight session.  
 
Bottom line - I expect meal to open better tonight and trade better for most if not all of the evening.  I feel we will be firm tomorrow as well and touch the $279.20 level at some point.  All of this assumes the Dow Jones doesn't absolutely crash.  The Ag markets are beginning to trade more on their own versus recent weeks where we followed very closely to the outside markets.  I expect better trade in Dec '08 meal tomorrow.

 
HOGS
Dec '08 hogs opened up slightly this morning and rallied to $58.72 which is through the $58.30 area of resistance that I thought would hold.  Dec '08 hogs did make early highs and closed toward the low of the day which is close to what I thought other than I figured we would actually trade lower today.  The cash was still nothing to write home about in the noon report put out by the USDA.  National cash hogs were $2.29 lower but the regional cash prices were anywhere from down $.54 to up $.17.
 
I didn't like the close in Dec '08 hogs today, I think we are setting up for a slug of selling below today's low of $57.52 (Globex pit).  If we do get below the $57.52 level tomorrow and experience some selling I would target the $57.05 to $56.70 area before we find support.  If those levels do not hold then I see another test of $55.45 in the near future.
 
Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 hogs to open better tonight and not do much in the evening hours but tomorrow we should see selling below $57.72 in the form of sell stops.  I am not saying sell the open tomorrow but I don't like what I have seen over the last couple of days, it looks like the little rally we had is coming to a close unless we can get and close above $58.70.  My expectation for tomorrow is lower with a possible test of $56.70 to $57.00.

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/23        59.5      66.39   89.38   68.35  42.34  94.02 54.31  73.79
Change :                0.45   -0.27    0.38  -0.23  -0.29  2.06    unc
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .16 lwr   :   .16 lwr   :   .18 lwr   :   .28 hgr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 50.75-61.50 : 50.75-61.50 : 50.75-61.50 : 51.00-57.00
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    57.28    :    58.92    :    58.82    :    54.30
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Head Count      :   21,437    :   10,434    :   14,128    :    7,309
==========================================================================
Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-22-08 - Help, we've fallen and we can't get up!

Oct 22, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-22-08 - Help, we've fallen and we can't get up!


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

Greetings from SNOWY Brookings, SD.  Yes, I said snow!


CORN
Dec '08 corn took no prisoners today as it was weak right out of the gate and remained that way for the balance of the day.  The first hour trade was negative which suggested the market should close below the opening price which it did.  I said yesterday that I thought we would open slightly higher last night and then sell off which was true.  I also said I thought we would test yesterday's low of $4.06 1/2 which happened overnight.
 
I look at the way the market traded today and see we closed below the $4.07 number I talked about yesterday.  If we don't close above at minimum $4.00 tomorrow then I would say we have a good shot at testing the low of $3.71.  It feels like the market will open lower tonight and follow through lower for awhile and then firm some.  The Dow Jones dropped another 150 points going into its close from where it was trading at 1:15 p.m. cst. when grains closed.  Oil held steady.
 
Bottom line - I think Dec '08 will open lower tonight and continue lower for awhile and then find some support around $3.81 to $3.71.  I don't think we will challenge $3.71 tonight or tomorrow UNLESS the Dow Jones is negative again.  The resistance level for tomorrow is $3.87 1/2 to $3.89 1/2.  If the Dow Jones is steady tomorrow I think we could challenge todays high of $3.91.  Watch the Dow Jones in the morning for Dec '08 corn direction.

 
MEAL
Dec '08 meal continues to give me reason to believe that when the rest of the markets are done selling off, meal will have a good rebound.  I said last night I thought we would test the $267- 268 area but only managed to get to $266.50.  I also said I expected the Dec '08 contract to be firm today which it actually was compared to corn and soybeans.
 
Bottom line - Dec '08 meal closed above $254.50 which is the 50% retracement back to the low of $236.90 we had last week.  I expect tonight to open lower and trade lower for a short while before finding some support around $254.50 again.  Again, I expect Dec '08 meal to be firm tomorrow; a close above $254.50 would keep the upside target at $272.10 but if we close below then it would be $250.30 and then all the way down to $236.90.
 
HOGS
Dec '08 hogs opened weaker this morning and traded weaker for a good portion of the morning.  I still don't understand why the Dec '08 contract is so firm considering the cash market is still nothing to write home about.  Cutout had its second day in a row of higher values closing $.59 higher this afternoon but the U.S. Dollar Index is still on a mission and was up approximately 140 points today, again!
 
Dec '08 still looks like it should be weak and I am going with the weaker call again for tomorrow.  I would expect a higher opening tonight and probably trade better for most of the overnight session just because of the lack of volume.  I don't expect Dec '08 to be a lot higher tomorrow but if it is I think $58.30 will provide some good resistance.
 
Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 to have early highs tomorrow and late lows.  $56.85 is an area of support that I think we could visit tomorrow and I don't believe cash will be all that strong yet to revive the Dec '08 contract.  I am going with a weaker tone tomorrow for hogs.
USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
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         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
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10/22        81.8      65.94   89.64   67.97  42.58  94.31 52.26  73.79
Change :                0.59   -0.45   -0.93   0.60   1.16  2.80  -0.06
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National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .73 lwr   :   .01 lwr   :   .10 lwr   :   .53 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 50.75-61.00 : 52.00-61.00 : 52.00-61.00 : 50.75-58.78
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    56.94    :    58.81    :    58.67    :    54.04
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   26,632    :   13,011    :   16,667    :    9,965
==========================================================================
 
Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-21-08 - Grains lower but hogs find some life.

Oct 21, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-21-08 - Grains lower but hogs find some life.

 Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec '08 corn did like I thought it would last night and today, it opened higher and traded better for a bit before it sold off.  $4.07 is 50% retracement of the $4.42 1/2 to the $3.71 low and if we continue to close above $4.07 we will have a shot at $4.42 1/2.  $4.15 1/4  to $4.17 is resistance for tonight and tomorrow in the Dec '08 corn contract.

I am looking for the Dec '08 contract to open slightly better tonight only to make an early high and sell off similar to last night.  I don't think the sell off will be as hard as we had last night or today but I do think we can test todays low of $4.06 1/2. 

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 corn to open slightly higher tonight, make an early high and sell off like last night.  I think we could test $4.06 1/2 either tonight or tomorrow and the next level of support is $4.00.  Resistance for tomorrow is $4.15 1/4 to $4.17.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal also did what I thought it was going to do today similar to corn.  We opened better last night and traded higher but failed to find follow through.   Meal has shown us strength over the last few days and today was no different, it rallied the last half of the session.  We closed meal at $265.80 in the Dec '08 contract and that's just above the 50% retracement level (back to high of $271.80) of $265.50.  If we continue to trade above $265.50 tomorrow then a test of $271.80 could be in the cards within the next couple of days.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 meal to be slightly higher tonight and I believe it will try to rally toward the $267.00 to $268.00.  I feel like Dec '08 meal is finding some legs and looking to form a foundation of support.  I expect firm trade tomorrow in the Dec '08 contract.

 

HOGS
I am not sure what everyone was looking at today but Dec '08 hogs seemed to be a hot item.  The market opened firm and was stronger all day long.   I don't have ANY good reason for this as the cash market is in the tank, cutout isn't doing much and the U.S. Dollar Index had a huge day!  I don't know if something else is going on or what but it sure doesn't make sense.  

Cash was lower by $.71 nationally which isn't really surprising and cutout was up $.62 which doesn't sound any fire alarms either.  This could be some short covering happening and I think if we continue to move higher we could see good selling above the market.  Resistance for tomorrow is $58.25 and then $59.15.  I would expect good selling at $59.15 if we can get there.  

Bottom line - I expect hogs to open better tonight based on the small good news of cutout being up $.62 but the U.S. Dollar Index (is at its highest level since 02-23-07) is on a runaway train to who knows where.  Momentum would suggest the hog market to be higher tomorrow but I think we will have early highs and late lows.  

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/21       123.0      65.35   90.09   68.90  41.97  93.15 49.46  73.85
Change :                0.62    2.82   -0.36  -4.74   1.06  1.73    unc
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

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                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .71 lwr   :   .63 lwr   :   .56 lwr   :  1.32 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 52.00-60.50 : 54.00-60.50 : 52.00-60.50 : 52.00-56.75
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    57.20    :    58.58    :    58.51    :    54.58
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   22,289    :   12,543    :   14,885    :    7,404
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


Hog & Corn Comments - 10-20-08 - Grains continue to rise and hogs are mixed.

Oct 20, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-20-08 - Grains continue to rise and hogs are mixed.


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec ’08 corn opened the session a tad better than the overnight close but had a negative first hour trade which would suggest a close lower than the open 80% of the time.  As I said on Thursday I thought there would be buying above Thursdays high of $3.91 ¾ and there was.  I said buying on Friday would be very aggressive which I still believe to be true.  I am feeling better about the market because we didn’t sell off going into the close today nor did we sell off very hard on Friday.  If I didn’t have a clue about the outside markets and influences I would say there is a high probability that last week was the low for Dec ’08 corn.  I will refrain from saying that because of the other issues that have been affecting our markets and not allowing the charts to work all that well in the past couple of weeks. 

I am beginning to see the indicators that I use begin to work again which is encouraging.  We closed at $4.18 ½ today which is above the 62% retracement back to the most recent high of $4.42 ½.  If we can continue to close above $4.06 ¾ then it is likely we will test $4.42 ½ again in the near future.  I do think we could take a break tomorrow for the moment.  If you look at the chart the Dec ’08 corn contract has moved $.49 from low to high in three days.  It is the biggest price rally we have had since the end of September.

Bottom line – I expect Dec ’08 corn to open higher tonight and trade higher early but may settle back later in the evening.  I think the market is due for a slight correction based off of the rally we had.  I think now is an excellent time to make sure you have feed needs covered with some type of strategy.  If you are buying cash corn or futures I would scale into it but if you are using an option strategy I would be very aggressive.

 

MEAL
Dec ’08 meal which has been the leader of the pack thus far seems to be ready to pounce.  The Dec ’08 contract has rallied $34.90 since last Thursdays low and I would expect a slight correction just as I do in corn.  The Dow Jones rallied into the close today and that should bring some carry over type excitement to the opening tonight.  It looks like Dec ’08 meal ultimately wants to reach the most recent high of $279.20 but I think we could see a small setback first, like I stated above.

Bottom line – I expect Dec ’08 meal to open better tonight and trade higher early but relax some later in the evening and the same thought goes for tomorrow.  I expect an early high and a late low tomorrow.  If we don't get that and we rally into the close, I will be very impressed with the action.


HOGS
Dec '08 hogs only had a $.90 trade range today, there isn't a lot to say about the hog market.  Last weeks trade action was negative and this weeks open was prime for continuation of trend which happens to be lower.  I expect resistance at $59.12 in the Dec '08 hog contract and support at $55.45.  I have a feeling we could test the most recent low of $55.45 because the cash market nor the cutout market are anything to write home about.

Bottom line - I expect hogs to be weaker tomorrow based on falling cash and cutout.  The futures market has been all but dead the last two trade sessions but I think there will be stops above todays high and also below todays low so therefore I think the market will accelerate in either direction.  My opinion is lower and the stops triggered will be sell stops.   

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/20        45.8      64.73   87.27   69.27  46.71  92.09 47.72  73.85
Change :               -0.29   -1.67    0.13  -0.02  -0.55  0.05   0.79
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  2.11 lwr   :  1.45 lwr   :  1.86 lwr   :  1.26 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 50.25-61.49 : 52.00-60.71 : 50.25-61.49 : 52.00-57.61
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    57.44    :    58.94    :    58.78    :    55.88
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   21,006    :    7,255    :   11,057    :    9,673
==========================================================================
 
Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-16-08 - Grains rebound but hogs are still sliding.

Oct 16, 2008




Hog Comments - 10-16-08 - Grains rebound but hogs are still sliding.


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec '08 had another one of those openings where you think, man I wonder how fast we will hit limit lower today.  Well, it threw a curve-ball today and actually performed quite well.  The market didn't seem to follow the Dow Jones as much as it has the past couple of days.  The Dow Jones has rallied into its close by approximately 500 points from where it was at when corn closed.  The Dow rally would suggest better trade tonight and tomorrow for Dec '08 corn. 

It will be interesting to see how the trade treats tomorrow as it is Friday and we are headed into the weekend.  It was also interesting to see the buying come to the market this afternoon for the second day in a row.  I said yesterday that I thought Dec '08 corn would reach $3.75 either last night or today; we touched $3.71 today and bounced off of it.  This is encouraging to me because thus far we have held support.  Again, as I stated yesterday if we close the market below $3.75 for a day or two, it shouldn't take long to reach $3.25 Dec '08. 

Bottom line - The last two weeks we have closed on our low for the week and we are currently $.13 1/2 off of our low this week.  I expect the corn market to have buy stops above todays high of $3.91 3/4, buying this market on a Friday would be VERY aggressive and I don't recommend it.  If the buying does come and we have a good weekly close and we can get follow through buying next week a target to the upside would be $4.21 but for now we should see resistance at $4.00 and support at $3.71.  We NEED to close above $3.71 tomorrow otherwise I think $3.25 is in our future.  I expect corn to trade better tonight and tomorrow,  I think we could touch some buy stops around $3.92 tomorrow.

MEAL
Dec '08 meal was the leader of the pack today, it was the commodity that started the rally in the grains today.  The Dec '08 contract looks pretty good on a weekly basis right now, the only problem is the weekly chart isn't complete without a Friday close.  I need to see how we close tomorrow before I will say we could reverse.  I will say MAKE SURE YOU HAVE MEAL COVERAGE IN PLACE with options if you don't already.  This downward move in the market is a tremendous gift and we shouldn't let it pass us by. 

I really need to see the weekly chart tomorrow afternoon but it sure looks encouraging as of todays close.  This could all change tomorrow and that is why I am saying use options, it still gives you the downside if the market chooses to move lower yet.  I still have support around $229.00 in the Dec '08 but first I have support at $244.90 for tomorrows session.

Bottom line - I am not saying we have reversed just yet but like the action we had late in the session today.   I expect the market to open a little higher tonight and possibly retrace back to $249.00 or so but I expect a firm day tomorrow unless we have a major fallout in the Dow Jones again, then all bets are off.

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs didn't do exactly what I thought they would do today with cutout being down $2.96 yesterday.  I thought we would touch limit lower today at some point but we never did, we only got as low as $55.90 in the pit which was $2.17 lower but the electronic trade was $2.62 lower at one point.  We are toward the lows of the week based on today's close so we could see a little bounce in the market tomorrow. 

Even if we bounce tomorrow I think we will be met with selling if we get high enough because the fundamental picture still isn't that rosy.  We don't have the Dollar weakening right now and the packers are pretty much bought up for next week and some even through the end of the month.  I am not getting excited about a big rally here, I feel there will be some short-covering tomorrow because it is Friday and the market closed today on near the low of the week.  Cutout was up $1.11 today and cash varied in price but was mostly $1.50 lower or so.

Bottom line - I expect hogs to trade slightly higher tomorrow based on higher cutout and the packers gaining more of their margin back.  I also attribute a small rally to possible short covering going into the weekend.  If we were to get crazy to the upside tomorrow I would say we could reach $57.30 which will probably be met with selling.

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/16        70.8      65.22   88.92   69.54  46.80  91.40 47.47  74.75
Change :                1.11    1.48    0.23   2.63  -0.24 -0.58   3.74
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  1.52 lwr   :  1.66 lwr   :  1.68 lwr   :  1.37 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 53.00-62.09 : 54.50-62.09 : 54.50-62.09 : 53.00-61.50
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    59.33    :    60.17    :    60.33    :    58.12
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   22,529    :    7,738    :   12,363    :   10,144
==========================================================================

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-15-08 - Look on the bright side, we are one day closer to the bottom.

Oct 15, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-15-08 - Look on the bright side, we are one day closer to the bottom.


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
There really isn't much to say about corn other than more of the same.  We are still experiencing liquidation of assets by hedge funds and until that selling stops we don't have much to look forward to in the way of higher prices.  I never dreamed we would have a chance to potentially lock in feed corn for less than $3.00 a bushel in the last half of 2008.  The close in Dec '08 corn was weak and would suggest further downside tonight and tomorrow.  

I expect a test of $3.75 in Dec '08 in the next day or two and if we close below $3.75 then we can look forward to $3.25 in what could be a short amount of time.  The Dow Jones dropped another couple hundred points after the Ag markets closed which will again lead to more pressure this evening and tomorrow.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 corn to open lower tonight and probably test $3.75 tonight and if not tonight then I would expect it tomorrow at some time.  I say this assuming we will not have any other new come from Washington D.C. or Wall Street that would change the perception of the market right now.  $3.75 Dec '08 is likely and $3.25 is just around the corner from there.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 soybean meal was strong today considering what soybeans and corn did.  Dec '08 meal only lost 1.21% of its value today while Nov '08 soybeans lost 4.24% and Dec '08 corn losing 5.65%.  Crude Oil was weak today and made a new low at $74.09  which didn't help the soy complex any.

Dec '08 meal has a target price of $229.80 and then down to $217.00.  I believe $229.80 is possible but we will see how meal acts around $229.80 before making the call of $217.00.  Again like I mentioned in corn, we have been in liquidation mode for soybeans with funds taking money out of the markets and turning it into cash.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 meal to open mixed to slightly higher tonight but only for a short while.  I believe we will continue our move lower tomorrow on the tail of the outside markets.  People are still in fear mode and it will be hard to turn any market when it is faced with panic selling.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs only opened $.60 lower but they didn't stay there very long.  The Dec '08 contract made a low of $57.85 which is a new contract low for this contract.  I will expect more selling below this low based on the lack of positive news in the cash and cutout markets. 

Cutout was down a WHOPPING $2.96 today!  In this environment I would expect Dec '08 hogs to trade limit lower at some point tomorrow and probably the rest of the contracts as well.  I could be all wet but there is very little positive news out there for anyone to latch onto and we will need something to get this market.  A cutout drop of $2.96 wouldn't be what I had in mind to give the market a boost.

Bottom line - like a broken record, I think tomorrow will be weaker in the Dec '08, mainly due to the cutout drop of $2.96.  Like I said above I expect Dec '08 to at least trade limit lower sometime during the day, I can't say I expect the market to lock limit lower tomorrow though.  We will see.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/15       108.4      64.11   87.44   69.31  44.17  91.64 48.05  71.01
Change :               -2.96   -2.41    0.84   0.03  -0.21 -6.61  -4.91
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  1.57 lwr   :  1.51 lwr   :  1.30 lwr   :   .25 hgr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 53.00-64.38 : 53.25-64.38 : 53.25-64.38 : 53.00-62.00
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    60.56    :    61.63    :    61.81    :    59.47
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   21,347    :    7,068    :    9,719    :   11,506
==========================================================================


 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


Hog & Corn Comments - 10-13-08 - Ag markets have nothing on the Dow Jones today!

Oct 13, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-13-08 - Ag markets have nothing on the Dow Jones today.


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec '08 corn had a friendly opening last night by gaping lower than Fridays low and then moving higher.  The Dow Jones helped to some extent today by trading 500 + points higher during most of the day session for the Ag commodities.  $4.18 1/2 was 50% of Friday's trade range and provided resistance during todays trade.  We need to close the market above $4.20 1/2 in order to make a run toward our most recent high of $4.42 1/2.   

It is hard to get excited about the corn market rallying here because of all the tricks it has played the last couple of weeks.  The Dow Jones was higher and thus kept most other markets higher as well.  I would like to see another close above a prior day high before I get too excited about anything to the upside. 

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 corn to open mixed to higher tonight but my eyes are all on the Dow Jones for right now.  The corn market isn't trading corn, it is still trading outside markets so it is tough to get a good feel for direction other than lower.  I will go with higher calls tonight and then an early high in the day session tomorrow unless the Dow Jones continues to move higher.



MEAL
Dec '08 actually had a buy signal overnight when the market traded below $250.20 and then made a move higher.  We made a low of $246.70 last night and a high of $263.80, of which neither were breached during the day session.  The weekly chart on Dec '08 meal is showing warning signs of slowing in regards to our recent decline.  Todays action wasn't too concerning one way or the other.

Dec '08 meal looks like it wants to trade higher tonight/tomorrow but we will see how the outside markets treat us.  The Dow Jones had its largest single day rally in history with a 936 point jump today.  I would expect the enthusiasm to follow through in the Ag commodities tonight.  The Dow was only 400+ higher when the Ag markets closed today.   

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 meal to open higher tonight and trade higher.  If we retrace lower we should expect support at $255.30 and $253.20.  Resistance will be at $263.20 and then on to $267.00.  If we can close tomorrow above $263.20 then our next target will be $279.20 which is our most recent high.


HOGS
Dec '08 made a charge right out of the gate today.  There wasn't any major cash news to contend with that suggested a bullish environment but the US Dollar Index was heading south fast.  The only problem with weaker Dollar is it was actually considerably higher on Friday so the drop today, although significant, it wasn't as much as if we were steady last Friday.

I liked the way hogs traded on Friday, grains and cattle were all down limit but Dec '08 hogs only closed around $1.00 lower.  Impressive.  The Dec '08 needs to close above $61.00 like it did today in order for me to think we could take another stab at $62.57.  The selloff in the market later in the session looked to be profit-taking and would suggest another move higher toward todays high of $62.85. 

Bottom line - I expect hogs to be modestly lower tonight/tomorrow but outside influences may have an effect on the price.  I think support will be at $60.70 in the Dec '08 and upside resistance is $61.85 - $62.10 and then up to todays high of $62.85.  Cash isn't anything to write home about so a runaway train to the upside looks unlikely at this point. 

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/13        50.8      68.53   90.95   69.89  48.94  91.61 56.59  75.87
Change :               -0.05    0.69   -1.31  -0.18   0.81 -0.78  -0.11
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  1.63 lwr   :  2.00 lwr   :  1.87 lwr   :   .84 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 54.50-65.00 : 54.50-65.00 : 54.50-65.00 : 54.50-64.41
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    61.48    :    61.97    :    62.08    :    60.73
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   19,333    :    7,530    :   10,590    :    8,552
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


Hog & Corn Comments - 10-09-08 - WOW, a follow through rally in corn and meal!

Oct 09, 2008

 

Hog Comments - 10-09-08 - WOW, a follow through rally in corn and meal!

 

Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec '08 opened slightly lower than the overnight close this morning and the first hour trade for corn soybeans and soybean meal were all negative.  If the market is trading lower at 10:30 a.m. cst than where it opened there is approximately an 80% chance it will close the day below the open.  The exact opposite is true for the market trading higher at 10:30 a.m. cst.  

Like I said above, the markets were all negative during the first hour of trade but managed to fall in the 20% category today instead of the 80%.  Today was the day I have been looking for; we closed above a prior day high and went against the odds by closing above where we opened the day session.  The big question now is, are we moving higher because we are seeing fresh buying or is it short-covering going into tomorrows USDA monthly crop production report?

I mentioned yesterday that it seemed like the market was not taking as much direction from the outside markets like it had been in recent days/ weeks.  As I said yesterday if feels like the Ag markets have divorced themselves from the outside markets and today reinforced that thought.  Tonight will be the big test because the Dow(n) Jones plummeted today after the grain markets closed.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 to be steady to mixed tonight with no major volatility because of USDA crop production report tomorrow at 7:30 a.m. cst.  The approximate trade guess for corn yield is 152.3 bushels per acre.  From an intra-day perspective the hourly chart could retrace back to the $4.36 1/2 to $4.35 area.  The trade tomorrow will depend on the USDA report but the charts suggest a higher move.  Report days you can throw charts out the window at least for the first hour.  I think it will be difficult for the market to move much lower on bearish news because of how far we have dropped already.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal opened stronger today and was firm for the balance of the day.  We had a period during the session where we traded close unchanged but never got lower and made a rally toward the end of the day to close near the session high.  The soybean and meal market didn't follow the Crude Oil market today which was down over $4.00 today so this is a good sign we may be getting our Ag markets back to trade our own fundamentals.

Dec '08 reached my first area of resistance today which was $276.60 but failed to get to $283.10.  We closed the market at $276.00 today which still signals a potential test of $283.10 sometime in the near future.  Like I said yesterday I am more comfortable with soybean meal being friendly because of the nice close we had yesterday and todays close was fair.  My cycle indicator has meal making a move lower tonight/tomorrow but again with a crop report out in the morning it is hard to predict action with any great accuracy.  I am not too impressed with the USDA after its little 1.3 million acre flub in the Sep 30th stocks report.  

Bottom line - I am cautiously friendly meal and look for more follow through to the upside in the week to come.  Again tonight/tomorrow will be a test of how much independence the Ag markets have taken on after the Dow(n) Jones decided to fall apart once again today.  The intra-day chart suggests a possible test of $273.70 down to $270.20 tonight or tomorrow.  The daily charts are friendlier than this and so am I.  I hope you have option coverage in place for meal needs.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 traded quite well today in my opinion considering the fundamental news we received last night in cutout and again this morning in the cash bids.  The cutout was down $2.58 last night and the noon USDA cash report had cash down around $4.00 cwt.  The market just seemed to brush this information off as it was happening.

It was impressive to see the market hold on negative news in especially since the market has rallied over the past couple of days.  We closed the market at $61.12 today which is above my support of $60.65 to $60.25.  The cash and cutout were both negative again tonight which should again apply negative pressure to the market tomorrow.  If the market closes below $60.65 tomorrow I would expect a test of $60.25 rather quickly because it isn't t that far away and then a possible test of $58.77.

Bottom line - the Dec '08 globex contract is trading $.72 lower as I write this at 5:25 p.m. cst.  I would expect continued weakness tomorrow from hogs and if the USDA crop production report is negative tomorrow it could add fuel to the fire.  One can only imagine that the Dow Jones will be lower tomorrow so if we have a negative USDA report it could be a nasty day.  We need a close above $60.65 tomorrow if we want to salvage this little rally we have/had going.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/09        62.3      68.83   92.58   69.58  47.73  90.19 57.25  75.98
Change :               -0.92    1.25   -0.56  -5.25    unc -1.87  -0.81
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

 

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  2.59 lwr   :  2.93 lwr   :  2.74 lwr   :  1.54 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 55.50-68.92 : 55.50-68.92 : 55.50-68.92 : 56.00-64.86
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    63.62    :    64.77    :    64.94    :    61.15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   23,031    :    9,736    :   14,996    :    7,835
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-08-08 - My quotes must not be working, grains were up?

Oct 08, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-08-08 - My quotes must not be working, grains were up?


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec '08 corn struggled early in the session before it took some lead from soybeans and traded higher.  It is impressive in the sense that corn was stronger on the close more so than on the open.  Corn didn't close above yesterday's high of $4.29 3/4 but it did manage to match this level late in the day which is something we haven't done since Sept 24th!

If we have follow through tomorrow in corn and actually close above a prior day high ($4.32 1/2 was todays high) I will get pretty comfortable with saying we should start to shoot for $4.90 1/2 for a target level.  We would need to close above $4.90 1/2 for a day or two and if we can do that then we should look for $5.10 1/4 and ultimately $5.74 but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet, these are just resistance points.  I do think $4.90 1/2 is attainable if we can get a close above a prior day high, as of right now I will not rule out more downside until we get a close above a prior day high.

Bottom line - We had a good opening in corn tonight by opening $.01 lower and then moving higher from there.  We took out last nights high already and I would expect the market to continue higher or at least stay firm overnight.  It is interesting to note that it feels like the Ag markets divorced themselves from the outside markets particularly the Dow(n) Jones.  I liked the way we closed the market today and I expect follow through to the upside tomorrow with a POSSIBLE test of $4.48 which would be up $.20 1/2; this could be a stretch.  The market fell so fast that it's hard to find any near-term resistance points!

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal had a spectacular night last night trading as much as $19.80 higher before closing $.70 higher overnight.  The day session in soybeans showed weakness at first only to fake us out and make a run higher which helped an already firm meal market.  If we can close Dec '08 meal above $276.60 tomorrow I would expect a chance at $293.30 at some point in the near future.

Unlike corn, Dec '08 meal closed above its prior day high (Tuesday's high was $260.00) and is showing continued firmness tonight.  The soybean market was up as much as $.63 last night before settling $.03 higher this morning.  Rumor was that the Chinese were in doing some buying but can't say this is fact because it was never confirmed to me so take it with a grain of salt.  

Bottom line - I said in yesterdays comments that I thought we would see resistance at $261 or so in the Dec '08 meal and we did early in the session but blew through it later in the day.  I also said I would like to see a close above a prior day high which we got today and now I am much more friendly to soybean meal than I have been recently.  The market is higher overnight and I anticipate the strength to follow through into tomorrows session.  $276.60 is my first area of resistance and then it is on to $283.10 from there.  I wouldn't classify myself as bullish just yet but friendlier than yesterday now that I got the close I have been looking for.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs opened stronger and traded stronger for most of the day, cash was pretty much a non-event at noon and there was little other news to make waves in the market.  The US Dollar Index was quiet today for a change and didn't give much direction one way or the other.  The cash market was weak in the east but had room to bid slightly in the west and even ended the day basically neutral to slightly lower because of the eastern cornbelt bids.  

The trade we had today wasn't that impressive.  The candlestick left on the charts today in the Dec '08 contract would suggest the buying has potentially run out.  There isn't a strong sell signal but I would expect sell stops below $61.15 which was todays low on the Globex (electronic) chart.  I say this also because cutout came in $2.58 lower today which is a sizable one day drop, historically speaking.  This drop in cutout should take away a nice chunk of packer margin and the only way to get margin back is to lower cash bids or the cutout moves higher.  

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 hogs to be weaker tomorrow on the coattails of a lower cutout number and steady cash tonight.  $60.65 down to $60.25 are areas of support for the Dec '08 contract, we need to hold this level otherwise we stand to test the most recent lows of $58.77.  I would like to see how we act around the support levels I listed above before I get too excited about a test of most recent lows.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/08        95.1      69.75   91.33   70.14  52.99  90.19 59.12  76.79
Change :               -2.58   -0.36   -0.68  -0.26  -0.31 -6.37  -4.88
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .78 lwr   :   .03 lwr   :   steady    :  1.73 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 55.50-70.00 : 55.50-70.00 : 55.50-70.00 : 57.00-66.57
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    65.94    :    67.62    :    67.63    :    62.71
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   23,187    :   11,986    :   15,208    :    7,979
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

 

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-07-08 - The Down Jones is at it again!

Oct 07, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-07-08 - The Down Jones is at it again!


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
Dec '08 corn started the morning in good shape opening higher by $.03 3/4 and rallied some but couldn't find enough support to keep the rally alive.  We got as high as $.05 3/4 higher at one point but that is all it could do.  Once the Dec contract decided there wasn't any buying left, it took the path of least resistance, lower.    In the last hour of trade the market was $.11 1/4 lower at one point but managed to close down $.07.  

I am not shifting from my comments yesterday suggesting a test of $4.00 and if things get bad enough we could see $3.75 after that.  Let's see if $4.00 happens first before we get too carried away.  The market seemed to follow the Dow Jones today, the Dow was higher early in the session which firmed the opening call for corn but faltered and ended up trading lower.

Bottom line - I expect a test of $4.21-$4.23 at some point either overnight or tomorrow.  If the market can sustain trade above these levels for an hour or two tomorrow then I will say we should test todays high of $4.29 3/4 BUT if we don't trade above the resistance points I listed above then I would say we are on to lower lows once again.  I feel like we could see lower prices again tomorrow however is also feels like the market is trying to settle down and find a trading range.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal ended the day higher today and actually traded higher the entire session.  Dec made a high of $260.00 today which is above the 50% retracement level back to yesterdays high of  $268.60 but we failed to close above the 50% level.  50% is $259.20 which will still be resistance tonight and tomorrow, the next level of resistance will be $261.40.  If we continue to trade below these levels we should test our most recent low at $250.30.  

Crude Oil was trading as much as $5.00 per barrel higher early this morning when both meal and soybeans were trading on their highs.  By the end of the market session for grains Crude Oil was only trade approximately $.50-$1.00 higher or so. Crude Oil is currently trading below $90.00.

Bottom line - I expect a test of the $259.20-$261.40 area only to find resistance.  I still need to see a daily close above a prior day high to get excited about a possible price reversal back to the upside.  I think this is still a great opportunity to cover meal with call options.  We still need Wall Street to straighten out before we can get the commodities markets rolling again, this is just my opinion.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs were stronger like I thought they should be today.  It is such a crap shoot anymore with the outside markets trading all over the place.  I am very pleased with the trade action today in the Dec '08 contract.  We traded higher than yesterdays high right on the open and never traded lower during the session.  The strength held into the close for the Dec '08 contract which was the strongest contract in the pit.  Cash bids for hogs were stronger early this morning but it didn't last long once packers filled their needs.  

The US Dollar Index was down over 100 points early today and is now down 66 points.  I expect to see a possible test of the $63.25-$64.30 area over the next few days given todays close above prior day highs.  Todays close above a prior day high was the first time we have done this since September 22nd, 2008.  I am not going to say I am bullish hogs here but I am looking for a correction at this time. 

Bottom line - I expect to see a test $62.40 area tomorrow with the possibility of reaching $63.25 if we get lucky.  I haven't seen the afternoon cash or the cutout as I write this so that could also change things but technically I expect better markets tomorrow.  I would prefer to see a steady to lower open tonight/tomorrow because that would be the best open for follow through to the upside.  

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/07        86.4      72.33   91.69   70.82  53.25  90.50 65.50  81.68
Change :               -0.57    0.10   -0.30  -0.30  -0.24 -2.10   0.24
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .17 hgr   :  1.10 hgr   :   .86 hgr   :  1.60 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 55.50-70.00 : 55.50-70.00 : 55.50-70.00 : 57.00-66.89
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    66.67    :    67.68    :    67.63    :    64.52
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   30,865    :   17,844    :   21,388    :    9,477
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.


Hog & Corn Comments - 10-06-08 - The Down Jones leads the way!

Oct 06, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-06-08 The Down Jones leads the way!


Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
There isn't much to talk about with the corn market just yet, we opened weaker than overnight markets would have suggested, rallied a bit and then ultimately sold off to the limit and actually had a synthetic trade of around $4.10 or so in the Dec '08 contract.  Until Wall Street settles down and the credit markets get going again, I don't look for much good from these markets.  The rumor is that TARP (the rescue bill passed last Friday) is not expected to actually kick in for another 3-4 weeks. 

I said last week that if $4.84 didn't hold as support we could test $4.37 and both of these numbers have been touched and we are trading below both at this time.  A close below $4.37 would suggest a test of approximately $3.75 basis the Dec '08 futures.  The one thing the markets have going for them tomorrow is the way the Dow Jones came back on the close today.  It traded 800 points lower at one point today but rallied into the close.  The market stopped trading at 3:00 p.m. cst and it was around 325 points lower at that time.

Bottom line - I expect corn to gap lower tonight and maybe test $4.00 area with further thoughts of $3.75 at some point.  This can all go out the window if the stock market decides to turn around and head north for some reason.  It is hard to say where these markets are going during these times but keep your feed coverage in place via options if possible.  I thought it was a tremendous opportunity to protect feed $1.00 ago so it is even better now, just make sure you have the downside open.  The market has shown us in the last week that nobody knows what will happen.  CORN LIMIT  IS $.45 TONIGHT/TOMORROW.


MEAL

Dec '08 soybeans meal opened weaker than overnight suggested its open and then rallied.  The meal market seems to be the strongest link in the Corn, Soybeans and Meal mix.  Soybeans and corn were both trading limit lower today and soybean meal was down $17.50 which is just off limit lower.

We could see a possible test in Dec '08 meal around $229.00 but again like corn this hinges on what Wall Street does.  I am not saying once Wall Street bounces the commodities markets will be off to the races, I am saying we should regain stability in our markets.  Crude Oil was down $4.79 today closing at $89.04!

Bottom line - I expect the meal market to open lower tonight similar to corn and trade around for a while and wait until tomorrows day session before taking any significant direction.  Technicals nor fundamentals have been working that great these days so it is hard to give projection points because we need the market to get back to "normal" trade whatever that is.  Make sure you have call coverage in place to the upside, when this market decides to turn it will probably be swift!  SOYBEAN LIMIT IS $1.05 TONIGHT/TOMORROW.


HOGS
Dec '08 hogs gaped lower today opening around $59.50 and made new lows at $58.70 but closed back at $59.82.  I have to say, I am impressed with the way Dec '08 hogs traded today.  The candle on the day chart would suggest buy stops above todays high of $60.20 and I would tend to agree from a technical perspective but not so sure I want to bite with all of the outside influences being so undecided.  The US Dollar Index is up a bunch today too, over 100 points and the hogs still rallied over $1.00 off their lows in the face of limit down corn and soybeans and both feeder and live cattle.  Huh, looks encouraging to me.  I am not suggesting a buy in here although the charts say put a buy stop above todays high, I am pointing out the strength of the hog market in overall bearish feel of the markets in general today.

Bottom line - I am waiting for hogs to show me something that says they want to bottom, todays trade action was a good example.  I would still like the stock market to settle down before I get anxious to do anything in hogs.  Maintain coverage to the upside with call options against short hedges.  Under normal circumstances I would expect hogs to be higher tomorrow but the way the outside markets are trading I am not married to that opinion.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/06        41.2      72.90   91.58   71.11  53.55  90.74 67.59  81.43
Change :                0.03    0.72   -1.10  -0.05   1.93 -0.51    unc
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  1.24 lwr   :  1.81 lwr   :  1.66 lwr   :   .14 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 58.00-69.69 : 58.00-69.69 : 58.00-69.69 : 58.00-68.00
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    66.32    :    66.26    :    66.53    :    66.12
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   28,072    :   10,657    :   13,692    :   14,182
==========================================================================

 

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-02-08 - The only thing gaining value today were put options!

Oct 02, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-02-08 - The only thing gaining value today were put options!

Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

CORN
It didn't take much to get corn rolling to the downside again today.  I waited for the Senate vote last night and after the vote the bill passed but it didn't seem to affect the markets at all.  The talk as I understand it is the market isn't sure the House will pass the bill on Friday.  The "sweeteners" the Senate added to the bill to entice more Republicans might turn off some of the Democrats that voted yes in the House.    My head hurts from all of this stuff.

Dec '08 corn couldn't hold its $4.84 support level today and the market dropped the daily price limit of $.30.  My next target for corn is at $4.35-$4.37 which is now in reach for tomorrows trade if things are still negative.  As of right now I can't find anything positive about this market.   I don't still don't think fundamentals matter right now and we are in fund liquidation mode.  People are pulling their money out of stocks, commodities, you name it.  I honestly thought we would see some support from the Senate vote last night more as a vote of confidence in the market but nobody seems to care today.

Bottom line - I expect a lower opening tonight, probably come back and test todays low of $4.54 to fill a gap and remain negative for most of the overnight session.  I would imagine some eyes will be on the House vote tomorrow but I am not sold on that idea either.  We are going through the cleansing process for this market and it needs to run its course.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal held in there fairly well considering corn was limit lower and soybeans were down $.49.  There are still many reports of lower yields coming in so I am not convinced that this market is going to stay lower for an extended period of time.  Our next target is $250.00 if we don't hold the support at $271.50 which is a 62% retracement back to our contract low of $172.00 from September of 2006.

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 meal to open slightly higher tonight only to back off and test todays low of $271.50.  If the support holds I would expect a mild rally but nothing of any concern to the upside.  I will wait for a day that we close above the prior day high before I get excited about a rally or move higher.  I do think that we will have a good rally after all of the fund liquidation is over and all of this bailout talk is done.

 

HOGS
Dec '08 hogs were weak right out of the gate today opening $.97 lower.  The market took a pretty good hit on the chin today after we took out yesterdays lows like I talked about yesterday.  There was good selling today and not much optimism throughout the day.  The noon cash reports has cash hogs lower by approximately $3.00 per cwt and that got the market moving further to the downside.  

The afternoon cash report had cash hogs mostly $2.00 per cwt lower and cutout up $.29.  We made new contract lows today and rallied some into the close but not enough to get excited about.  Again, like corn and soybean meal, I will wait until I get a close above a prior day high before I get excited about any major rallies.  

Bottom line - I don't expect hogs to trade significantly higher tomorrow, some recovery wouldn't surprise me but I don't expect much.  If cash continues to be weak and the US Dollar Index remains firm (new highs for 2008 today) I can't see hogs getting carried away to the upside.  I expect sideways to lower trade tomorrow.

 

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/02        80.0      73.14   91.44   71.13  53.88  87.94 68.38  82.47
Change :                0.29    2.18   -0.59   0.49   0.12 -0.67    unc
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :  2.27 lwr   :  2.24 lwr   :  2.25 lwr   :  1.80 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 58.00-72.64 : 58.00-72.64 : 58.00-72.64 : 59.00-68.92
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    67.78    :    69.06    :    69.18    :    65.50
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   20,314    :    8,394    :   12,586    :    7,728
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

Hog & Corn Comments - 10-01-08 - Waiting for a Senate vote at 6:30 PM CST.

Oct 01, 2008

Hog Comments - 10-01-08 - Waiting for a Senate vote at 6:30 PM CST.

Jeremy Knutson
1-877-212-2564
jknutson@hurleyandassociates.com

FCStone numbers were released after I wrote my comments below.
Corn yield at 151.70 versus a USDA yield of 152.30 in Sept.
Soybean yield at 39.40 versus a USDA yield of 40.00 in Sept.

CORN
Dec '08 FINALLY did what I thought it would do today, run down and test the $4.84 area of support.  The market got as low as $4.82 3/4 and rallied off of that number but the rally didn't get as high as the $5.05 - $5.09 area, it stopped short at $4.96 1/2.  The high for the session was $5.00 which happened in the overnight trade.  The volume in todays trade was much less than yesterdays but we did see some selling on the close.  It wasn't as much as yesterday but none the less it was selling.

The market traded higher for most of the day other than part of the first hour of trade and the last 5 minutes or so of the day session.  There are buyers out there but the nerves are not made of steel and it shows going into the close.  I was not impressed with the close today, but I liked the way the market traded during the day.  The bottom line is how it closes and like I said it was not great.  I believe FCStone is releasing thier yield estimates this afternoon around 3:00 PM CST for the 2008 crop.  If they are friendly I would expect a small pop in the market tonight but nothing significant, we still need to get something out of Washington D.C. before the markets get back to trading fundamental numbers. 

Bottom line - I expect Dec '08 corn to open slightly higher tonight and try to make another run at todays low of $4.82 3/4.  If FCStones numbers are bullish then I would not expect a test of todays low and possibly a test of todays high of $4.96 1/2 from the day session.  The Senate is suppost to have a vote on the rescue plan today and the House on Friday.  I apologize for my comments in yesterdays post, I said the House was voting today when it is actually the Senate.  If FCStones numbers are bullish I would expect better trade tomorrow but if they are neutral to negative it is lower from here.

 

MEAL
Dec '08 meal was the strong market this morning that got both soybeans and corn back on the plus side early in the trade session.  We didn't challenge yesterdays low like I thought we would but we really didn't do much to the upside either.  The market was supported and didn't have much of a day technically other than the fact we didn't make a new low.  China was in overnight looking for a couple of cargos of soybeans which lead to some optimism early on and the beans never looked back, meal followed along.  It is nice to see there is still some global demand for our Ag products during this time of financial crisis. 

The US Dollar Index traded near unchanged during most of todays trade session.  Crude Oil was as much as $4.50 lower and then traded about $.50+ higher before backing off again.  Grains seemed to be on thier highs when Crude was rallying.  It was rumored that France was going to have a rescue plan of its own but it was denied by the French Government so I am not sure where that one stands.  When this information was released the Dow Jones traded about 35.00 higher and was also when Crude was higher along with the grains.

Bottom line - I have similar thoughts for Dec '08 meal as I do for corn in relationship to the release of FCStones yield numbers.  If FCStone has bullish soybean yields then I expect meal to open higher tonight and try to move higher otherwise we open slightly higher and look to challenge yesterdays low.  My pure technical feel is for better trade again tomorrow but we need to get above $297.90 before I am going to get excited about an extended move higher.

 

HOGS
I said yesterday I thought hogs could trade better today and also said if we close below $64.00 we could see additional selling.  We didn't have to close below the $64.00 level before the selling surfaced.  We are off of our low of the day but still closed below the $64.00 level and we need to get back above it by Friday in my opinion if we want to salvage the Dec '08 hog chart.

$63.00 was the contract low for Dec '08 hogs (pit chart), we traded below this level down to $62.45 and then closed just below it at $62.97.  I would expect a mixed opening tonight and a possible test of the low tomorrow.  The cycle indicator that I look at has hogs moving higher tomorrow but this indicator hasn't been working well recently.  I expect the US Dollar Index to be affected by the rescue plan vote that the Senate is supposed to have today.  I think hogs will trade contrary to the US Dollar Index if we have a big move in that index.

Bottom line - I expect to test todays low of $62.45 tomorrow and there should be more sell stops below that level.  If we hold and move higher I expect $63.55 to give us resistance.  The cash market was basically neutral but the cutout was down $1.15 so it will be difficult for hogs to rally tomorrow unless it was all figured in today.  I think we will be steady to lower tomorrow based on current fundamentals.

USDA ESTIMATED PORK CARCASS CUTOUT
Based on FOB Omaha carlot pork prices and industry yields.

           Calculations for a 200 lb Pork Carcass
        53-54% lean, 0.65"-0.80" backfat at last rib
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
         Total                   Today's Primal Cutout Values
Date     Loads      Carcass    Loin    Butt   Pic     Rib   Ham  Belly
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
10/01       110.1      72.85   89.26   71.72  53.39  87.82 69.04  82.47
Change :               -1.15   -0.94   -1.42  -1.20   0.21 -2.37  -0.24
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

National Direct Hog Price Comparison

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                :  National   :    Iowa     :   Western   :   Eastern
                :             :  Minnesota  :  Cornbelt   :  Cornbelt
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Base Price is the price from which no discounts are subtracted and
   no premiums are added.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
BARROWS & GILTS :   .36 lwr   :   .22 hgr   :   .24 hgr   :   .71 lwr
Negotiated      :             :             :             :
CARCASS BASIS   : 59.50-74.00 : 61.00-74.00 : 61.00-74.00 : 59.50-70.27
185 lb Base Hog :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg   :   wtd avg
Plant Delivered :    69.71    :    71.38    :    71.44    :    67.31
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Head Count      :   21,409    :    9,519    :   12,058    :    9,071
==========================================================================

 

Hurley & Associates believes positions are unique to each person’s risk bearing ability; marketing strategy; and crop conditions, therefore we give no blanket recommendations. The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial, therefore, carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. NFA Rules require us to advise you that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that your trading experience will be similar to the past performance.

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